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At the end of the show today on NFL Live, Jeff Darlington threw his challenge flag at AD.
To surmise, he Says AD needs to sit back and really think twice about the "very very lucrative" offer the Rams have on the table. The narrative will soon change and the fans will turn.
I just looked into my clairvoyant ball and I was finally able to definitively determine that the "very very lucrative" offer is for the amount of....
$18.9 Million per year, $60M guaranteed! It makes him the second highest paid defender in the league!
Should he sign? Is he greedy if he wants more?
As for the narrative changing, when have the fans not been on management's side? A narrative change would be good news for AD! (actually I'm not sure why the narrative matters at all.)
Where did you come up with that ???
Most of the talk lately is that it would make him the highest paid defensive player in the entire NFL.
I'm guessing it's more in the $20-22 M per year range with $70-80m guaranteed and that's still not enough for Donald's agent.
Your two key words are,
"I'm guessing".
We're all guessing. That's my point. You're helping reinforce it.
An offer of $18.9M has a solid factual basis. Lets look:
Franchise tag for 3 years = $56.7M. Average that over 3 years and you get $18.9M
So does that offer have some reasonable and factual financial basis? check
Does that offer fit Demoff's statement of "among the highest paid defenders"? check
Does it fit the "Very very lucrative" language? check
Does it fit the "competitive offer" language? check
Does it fit the "make him the highest paid defensive player in the entire NFL" language? Very close to that.
I think I see your point. I think what you're doing is pointing out that an offer of 18.9 M meets all the vague criteria established for what qualfiies in some minds as a "lucrative offer." That reinforces the fact that without real numbers we actually don't know.
But to drive that point home, let me ask directly---do you regard 18.9 M as an adequate offer to the best defender in the league in 2018?
Yeah it can look that way to Darlington, and without numbers we can't know if that's right. BUT do YOU think 18.9 is an adequate offer to this player in this year?
You guys are kidding yourselves if you really think that an offer like that is what insiders like VB, JD, DJ, AS, SW etc are referring to.
Guaranteed it's no less then $20M per year.....
I know I keep bringing it up but here's why I hesitate to say that I KNOW the offer is $20M+ per year: The JJ negotiation.
All of us were sure the Rams were offering over $10M that year. There were whispers and reports of very good offers. And then we were in shock when we heard the top offer was $9M and JJ was insulted.
I don't assume things. But if I did, it's not gonna be that the team is making some great offer.
The insiders are guessing like the rest of us. Their language gives that away. And you know they're getting their info from the Rams right? Their reports aren't making AD look good so we know it didn't come from his side.
I take one-sided mouthpiece reports with a bucket full of salt. There's only one guarantee here: neither you or I know what the offer is. We're all guessing.
Obviously the Rams aren't going to leak the exact offer, but you're kidding yourself if you think that people with inside info aren't leaking stuff to guys like VB and the others.
When Vinny says he's heard it from many people the Rams have no problem making AD the highest paid defender, I tend to believe it....kinda funny you've never
heard anything from Donald's camp that those reports are false.
Just going by simple math from when Von signed his deal, it's easy to assume what the price may be....highly highly doubtful that it's $18.9 and a lot closer to the $20.5+ range.
Is Donald perhaps actually looking for QB money like some of the reports are indicating, it's looking more like that at this point then the Rams "low balling" him
I haven't heard one definite statement on a $20M+ offer yet. Qualifying language is always used.
There's evidence both ways; this can go back and forth. That kind of establishes that we're all assuming and/or guessing. And ultimately we're all going to believe what we want.
Let's agree to disagree b/c no one will ever be able to prove they were right anyway.