May 18, 2018 07:23AM
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My definition of a franchise QB is twofold. A Guy that a team isn’t trying to replace AND a QB that is sustainable.

I don’t think you can classify every one of those guys as sustainable QBs. In order to be sustainable you must be proven to be able to produce at a competent level repeatedly.

At the very least, None of those rookies fit that bill.

Yeah the rookies are wannabes. So is a first-time starter like Mahomes.

So in your definition, you stress consistency across time, which makes sense. That's why I don't count Foles.

But I also have clauses in the definition for saying a guy like Keenum is not really a FQB. Which is not a knock against him...he's scrappy, smart, and driven.

Another category is #2 caliber qb. There can of course be good ones and bad ones at that, too, and sometimes, with QB scarcity haunting the land, you go with one of those guys (Keenum, McCown).

I agree with you that neither Foles nor Keenum are franchise QBs. At this point neither is a guy whom their team isn't trying to replace. Whether they should be considered sustainable or not is questionable, but I would lean toward them not establishing sustainability at this point.

Actually, there is a case to be made that Garoppolo may not be franchise QB just yet. Maybe he needs more than 7 games. The point here isn't really to debate the validity of JimmyG being a franchise QB, but to ask if he should be rated as high as he's being rated by so many people.



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  How many "franchise" QB are there?

max578May 17, 2018 03:48AM

  Re: How many "franchise" QB are there?

zn277May 17, 2018 04:36AM

  Re: How many "franchise" QB are there?

max190May 17, 2018 05:17AM

  Unfortunately, there wasn't one in LA.

NewMexicoRam107May 17, 2018 04:49PM

  Re: How many "franchise" QB are there?

MamaRAMa180May 17, 2018 04:40AM

  Re: How many "franchise" QB are there?

zn152May 17, 2018 05:17AM

  Re: How many "franchise" QB are there?

Rams43153May 17, 2018 06:07AM

  Yup. Thad's a good explanation.

max132May 17, 2018 07:19AM

  "Physically talented"?

Suh-weet!124May 17, 2018 02:13PM

  Re: "Physically talented"?

zn330May 17, 2018 02:19PM

  Hoom...

Suh-weet!260May 17, 2018 04:41PM

  Re: Hoom...

zn125May 17, 2018 05:01PM

  Re: How many "franchise" QB are there?

David Deacon162May 17, 2018 06:58AM

  To be fair...

max167May 17, 2018 07:24AM

  Re: To be fair...

Ramsdude119May 17, 2018 07:33AM

  Re: To be fair...

zn158May 17, 2018 10:12AM

  Whatever the reasons...

max144May 17, 2018 10:26AM

  Re: Whatever the reasons...

zn304May 17, 2018 10:29AM

  Re: Whatever the reasons...

David Deacon121May 18, 2018 03:13AM

  +1 (nm)

zn83May 18, 2018 04:47AM

  wow one bad year

ferragamo79157May 17, 2018 07:42AM

  In ones mind

PHDram163May 17, 2018 06:00PM

  Re: In ones mind

zn120May 17, 2018 06:21PM

  Re: In ones mind

PHDram127May 18, 2018 03:53AM

  you're judging them in a different light

zn144May 17, 2018 09:58AM

  Garapolo

wv ram188May 17, 2018 08:29AM

  Yeah

Speedball89249May 17, 2018 09:51AM

  zn's franchise QB definition is what is assumed here...

max150May 17, 2018 10:19AM

  AND

zn183May 17, 2018 10:23AM

  All QBs are franchise QBs....

DaJudge207May 17, 2018 10:11AM

  no not all..

zn133May 17, 2018 10:26AM

  Gotta

PHDram164May 17, 2018 05:18PM

  How many "franchise" QB are there? A lot of them max

Anonymous User378May 17, 2018 03:10PM

  after long consideration, my definition of franchise QB.

max139May 18, 2018 03:02AM

  Re: after long consideration, my definition of franchise QB.

zn105May 18, 2018 04:56AM

  Re: after long consideration, my definition of franchise QB.

max215May 18, 2018 07:23AM

  Re: after long consideration, my definition of franchise QB.

PHDram97May 18, 2018 08:49AM

  Re: after long consideration, my definition of franchise QB.

max132May 18, 2018 09:07AM

  Re: after long consideration, my definition of franchise QB.

zn116May 18, 2018 09:37AM

  Pure speculation

PHDram158May 18, 2018 10:00AM

  Re: Pure speculation

max122May 18, 2018 01:01PM

  Re: Pure speculation

PHDram111May 18, 2018 05:07PM

  Re: Pure speculation

zn115May 18, 2018 09:26PM

  Re: Pure speculation

PHDram120May 18, 2018 10:11PM

  Re: after long consideration, my definition of franchise QB.

PHDram116May 18, 2018 09:39AM