May 03, 2018 11:54AM
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dzrams
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ferragamo79
AD was a home run for sure, but he was a surprise, Im not sure anybody thought he would be such a beast as he would have gone top 3.

but that said, they had 4 of the top 75 picks.

I love Joyner, but Mo Alexander is on his 3rd team...we will see....just ok in my book. And while Gaines has been a starter, he is very fragile and missed 28 starts in four years, again on his 3rd team. Want to see scary: look at 2006 through 2011 drafts.........

My point:

1. Don't judge a draft until 3 years have passed.
2. Rams have blown a lot of picks...especially during Fisher era with all those top picks.
3. Rams have not hit on 40% of their picks during that time. Definitely way less than 40 percent before that: see 2006-2011.
4. Draft is way over rated. People get so excited with picks but most dont make the team or flame out very soon there after.
5. Key is drafting well with adding trades and quality free agents. IMHO.

I agree with a lot of this. Points 1, 4, and 5 I have no problems with.

On point 3, before I accept them hitting on less than 40% overall as some type of indictment, I need to know where that number came from and what facts back it up.

I'm doing some quick mental math and seems to me that 40% as the expectation is way high. It should be closer to 29% when calculating all of the hit rates published in various studies for each respective round.

From what I've seen, the hit rate on the 1st round at its highest is 75% and it goes down to about 7% for the 7th round. The 2nd round is at 50%; the 2nd and the 1st round are the only ones with a hit rate above 40 so I'm not seeing how you're gonna get to 40% when you're factoring in all rounds.

Please explain if you know how that originated.

I actually looked at several years of good drafting teams.

They tend to hit around 40% up to the mid 40s.

Anything 50% or above is rare and superlative.

30% is average. High 30s is average-to-good.

Below 30% goes from below average to poor.

You can't derive this from hit rates round for round for the entire league. Then the averages get skewed by mixing good, bad, and average teams.

Pick 3-4 good drafting teams. Go back a few years so you can be sure of the results. Do consecutive years, like 5-6.

That's what I did that and it's my standard.



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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/2018 11:58AM by zn.
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  Brugler analysis of Rams picks

CROMWELL211580May 02, 2018 06:04AM

  Re: Brugler analysis of Rams picks

idaram356May 02, 2018 07:32AM

  Re: Brugler analysis of Rams picks

zn334May 02, 2018 07:47AM

  gotta wait 3 years to assess

ferragamo79385May 02, 2018 07:54AM

  enh

zn273May 02, 2018 08:20AM

  Re: enh

PHDram232May 02, 2018 09:08AM

  keep in mind every single team in the draft

ferragamo79341May 02, 2018 09:55AM

  Re: When you change coaches, the foundation also changes...

dzrams249May 02, 2018 10:31AM

  I partially agree

ferragamo79374May 02, 2018 11:24AM

  Re: 2014 was good...

dzrams191May 02, 2018 12:49PM

  sorry I just disagree

ferragamo79186May 02, 2018 05:09PM

  Re: sorry I just disagree

zn202May 02, 2018 11:25PM

  Snead has had 51 picks not counting this year

Speedball89254May 03, 2018 07:49AM

  Re: Snead has had 51 picks not counting this year

Rams43169May 03, 2018 08:25AM

  I wasn't arguing

Speedball89155May 03, 2018 08:33AM

  missing context

PHDram152May 03, 2018 10:30AM

  Re: missing context

Speedball89166May 03, 2018 10:33AM

  i didnt meant to put you to work!

PHDram175May 03, 2018 11:03AM

  Lol it's cool

Speedball89159May 03, 2018 12:41PM

  Ok i did the pats as you said

Speedball89157May 03, 2018 09:36PM

  Re: Ok i did the pats as you said

dzrams147May 03, 2018 10:01PM

  Re: Ok i did the pats as you said

zn281May 04, 2018 04:43AM

  Re: Ok i did the pats as you said

PHDram152May 04, 2018 05:12AM

  follow the link

zn143May 04, 2018 05:41AM

  Sorry

PHDram143May 04, 2018 05:48AM

  Re: Sorry

zn155May 04, 2018 05:51AM

  Re: Sorry

PHDram193May 04, 2018 06:39AM

  no I didn't do it that way

zn154May 04, 2018 06:44AM

  Re: no I didn't do it that way

PHDram203May 04, 2018 06:48AM

  Re: no I didn't do it that way

zn162May 04, 2018 07:05AM

  in about 30 seconds

PHDram252May 04, 2018 07:14AM

  I edited that post

zn166May 04, 2018 07:21AM

  given your penchant for precision

PHDram152May 04, 2018 07:35AM

  Re: given your penchant for precision

zn196May 04, 2018 07:40AM

  sorry

PHDram208May 04, 2018 07:48AM

  Re: sorry

zn143May 04, 2018 09:18AM

  np NM

PHDram139May 04, 2018 09:29AM

  So Givens is a hit but out of the league?

Speedball89138May 04, 2018 08:55AM

  ok but if you did....

PHDram173May 04, 2018 06:51AM

  Re: ok but if you did....

Speedball89155May 04, 2018 08:52AM

  2012-2017

PHDram280May 04, 2018 09:09AM

  Re: 2012-2017

Speedball89167May 04, 2018 09:16AM

  i dont disagree with you

PHDram142May 04, 2018 09:27AM

  No doubt

Speedball89174May 04, 2018 09:34AM

  Pats 2012-2015

RamBill157May 04, 2018 05:22AM

  Rams 2012-2105

RamBill162May 04, 2018 05:46AM

  55.3 vs 62.7

PHDram150May 04, 2018 07:07AM

  Re: Ok i did the pats as you said

PHDram163May 03, 2018 11:05PM

  how do you really know?

PHDram160May 03, 2018 10:26AM

  Re: Now, now...do we really want that?

dzrams158May 03, 2018 11:01AM

  LOL nm

PHDram299May 03, 2018 11:04AM

  exactly...so name 3 good drafting teams

zn270May 03, 2018 12:07PM

  Re: exactly...so name 3 good drafting teams

zn178May 04, 2018 03:52AM

  Re: Now, now...do we really want that?

Speedball89137May 03, 2018 12:36PM

  He has been very good at UDFA's

Speedball89146May 03, 2018 10:38AM

  Re: Where did this 40% number come from?

dzrams165May 03, 2018 11:17AM

  it came from me

zn189May 03, 2018 11:54AM

  Re: When you change coaches, the foundation also changes...

zn189May 02, 2018 01:51PM

  I think he meant Fisher but

Speedball89155May 02, 2018 03:51PM

  Re: I definitely meant Fisher...

dzrams286May 02, 2018 04:27PM

  Pretty much

Speedball89213May 02, 2018 08:24AM

  Other contenders

wv ram301May 04, 2018 05:39AM

  thrown away

PHDram265May 02, 2018 07:56AM

  Re: Brugler analysis of Rams picks

Billy_T251May 02, 2018 08:02AM

  Re: Brugler analysis of Rams picks

Rams43229May 02, 2018 08:17AM

  Re: The Rams had a backup draft? What was the expectation?

dzrams312May 02, 2018 09:29AM

  Re: Brugler analysis of Rams picks

Rampage2K-196May 02, 2018 02:11PM

  Backup Draft?

David Deacon330May 02, 2018 10:17AM

  I call BS!

jemach247May 02, 2018 03:43PM

  Re: I call BS!

DESERT RAM281May 02, 2018 06:09PM