December 06, 2017 02:08PM
A few things:

To waterfield: I enjoy your posts, but in this case, you are incorrect about one specific thing. Had the Eagles challenged the call, they would have won the challenge. There is indisputable evidence that the ball traveled forward. In this case, distinctions between "touching" or "bobbling" or "controlling" the ball are irrelevant.

Wilson released the ball at (or just prior) to the 47 yard line. It was FIRST TOUCHED by the trailing running back (#39, Mike Davis) at the 48 yard line. Even if Davis "controlled" the ball at the 49, whether the ball moved forward by one yard or two is irrelevant, because it is indisputable that the ball moved FORWARD. The ball moved forward by one full yard, and there is indisputable visual evidence to support that. Also, it does not matter that it is on a "two dimensional, flat TV screen," the evidence is still irrefutable.

Also-- to Saguaro: yes, I and many others would agree with you that Seahawks fans can be annoying. Their team got away with a call and their team won and they are STILL whining.

To Dr. funkenstein: kudos for bringing the funk to Dr. Einstein, you posted an awesome vid that gets to the heart of this debate. It's so good I am going to repost it here. Toward the end of the vid, you can see a player throw the ball BEHIND HIM AND OVER THE BACK OF HIS HEAD, and yet the ball STILL MOVES FORWARD. Fast forward to the 1:32 mark of the video to see the key point.





BCRams fan-- I disagree with you about the rule based on the above video. I can see how oither people would like to keep the rule as is, though.

To Recap:

As the rules are currently written, there is no question that the Seahawks committed an illegal forward pass. The ball moved forward from the 47 (released from Wilson's hands) to the 48 (when first touched by #39, Mike Davis).

The Eagles made a mistake in not challenging it, because they would have won the challenge.

Russell Wilson clearly the the ball behind him. Yet, the ball moved forward. For anyone who cannot reconcile these two facts, the answer can be found if you watch the video above. It's a physics thing.

In my opinion, the rule should be changed. If a player clearly and indisputably passes the ball BEHIND him, I believe it should be defined as a "backward pass," even if the player's momentum carries the ball forward. However: a strong case can be made for keeping the rule as-is, as well. It's kind of a matter of taste.

Lastly: I hate the Seahawks and love the Rams. I am only posting on this topic because I find it interesting from a physics standpoint.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  I have never seen a bigger collection of biased morons.

Saguaro1434December 04, 2017 06:16PM

  Re: I have never seen a bigger collection of biased morons.

XXXIVwin440December 04, 2017 08:17PM

  Re: I have never seen a bigger collection of biased morons.

YorkiePud375December 05, 2017 01:24AM

  I saw that

max382December 05, 2017 02:24AM

  It doesn't happen that often in rugby at all

RamUK333December 05, 2017 04:25AM

  Yes it does

dr-funkenstein-298December 06, 2017 10:13AM

  I only played the game for 10 years

RamUK298December 07, 2017 03:56AM

  I think we may be arguing different things

dr-funkenstein-304December 07, 2017 11:33AM

  Legal in rugby, not legal in football. nm

dr-funkenstein-294December 06, 2017 10:06AM

  Re: I resemble that remark!

Speed_Kills370December 05, 2017 03:05AM

  Why?

max524December 05, 2017 03:10AM

  It sure did look like a lateral.

Saguaro384December 05, 2017 03:22AM

  I don't think so....

JamesJM341December 05, 2017 03:39AM

  Re: again ... I say this is a lateral

Speed_Kills323December 05, 2017 03:47AM

  LOL....

JamesJM310December 05, 2017 03:56AM

  Well...let's see. I KNOW my good friend is not a moron.

Saguaro339December 05, 2017 04:17AM

  lol!!!! nm

Speed_Kills436December 05, 2017 04:30AM

  Einstein

XXXIVwin326December 05, 2017 04:18AM

  Re: I like this lol nm

Speed_Kills303December 05, 2017 04:31AM

  Re: Einstein' ..That's it exactly LOL

RAMSINCE ARNETT313December 05, 2017 05:53AM

  Re: Einstein... and now Neil deGrasse Tyson

XXXIVwin307December 05, 2017 04:43PM

  Tyson was never the same after Buster Douglas nm

21Dog289December 05, 2017 09:52PM

  True, but...

JamesJM293December 05, 2017 09:53PM

  me, too

21Dog302December 05, 2017 10:00PM

  yup (nm

wv ram285December 05, 2017 04:41AM

  Re: I admit I did not watch the replay closely

Speed_Kills446December 05, 2017 03:40AM

  Simply put...

max320December 05, 2017 04:15AM

  Re: I admit I did not watch the replay closely

ABQRam324December 05, 2017 04:17AM

  Re: I admit I did not watch the replay closely

Mackeyser383December 06, 2017 12:46AM

  Re: I admit I did not watch the replay closely

ABQRam306December 06, 2017 02:22PM

  Re: ABQ and Mackeyser

XXXIVwin300December 06, 2017 03:18PM

  Re: ABQ and Mackeyser

XXXIVwin302December 06, 2017 05:12PM

  If you say so!

NewMexicoRam288December 06, 2017 02:05PM

  Re: It sure did look like a lateral.

bigjimram21274December 06, 2017 07:48PM

  The NFL has ruled...

jemach333December 05, 2017 05:53PM

  I wouldn't call anyone a "moron" on that call

waterfield354December 05, 2017 09:30PM

  I find this interesting for one reason...

JamesJM314December 05, 2017 09:39PM

  I'm sure you wouldn't.

Saguaro313December 06, 2017 04:13AM

  Re: I wouldn't call anyone a "moron" on that call

zn327December 06, 2017 04:13AM

  Re: I wouldn't call anyone a "moron" on that call

waterfield495December 06, 2017 09:28AM

  Re: I wouldn't call anyone a "moron" on that call

AlbaNY_Ram282December 06, 2017 09:32AM

  Re: I wouldn't call anyone a "moron" on that call

waterfield332December 06, 2017 09:50AM

  You can tell by the yard markers . . . Bingo.

BC Ramsfan352December 06, 2017 10:22AM

  Re: You can tell by the yard markers . . . Bingo.

waterfield509December 06, 2017 12:00PM

  You might want to re-read that rule max posted

Drew2839309December 06, 2017 12:46PM

  Nvm. Misread you.

Drew2839418December 06, 2017 12:48PM

  Precisely

waterfield312December 06, 2017 12:51PM

  Indeed! nm

Drew2839283December 06, 2017 01:03PM

  Re: Triple Bingo and bringing the Funk to Einstein

XXXIVwin334December 06, 2017 02:08PM

  Great post. Just for that...

Saguaro323December 06, 2017 02:33PM

  Re: Triple Bingo and bringing the Funk to Einstein

waterfield306December 06, 2017 03:46PM

  Re: Triple Bingo and bringing the Funk to Einstein

XXXIVwin291December 06, 2017 03:56PM

  Re: Triple Bingo and bringing the Funk to Einstein

waterfield387December 06, 2017 04:08PM

  Hitting the ground is not a problem with laterals.

Saguaro273December 06, 2017 04:21PM

  Re: Triple Bingo and bringing the Funk to Einstein

XXXIVwin305December 06, 2017 05:01PM

  Re: Triple Bingo and bringing the Funk to Einstein

waterfield304December 06, 2017 05:24PM

  Re: Triple Bingo and bringing the Funk to Einstein

XXXIVwin332December 06, 2017 05:43PM

  Re: Triple Bingo and bringing the Funk to Einstein

waterfield292December 06, 2017 05:49PM

  Re: Triple Bingo and bringing the Funk to Einstein

XXXIVwin340December 06, 2017 06:20PM

  One last question from me, X. You're so good at this.

Saguaro306December 06, 2017 05:50PM

  Re: One last question from me, X. You're so good at this.

XXXIVwin321December 06, 2017 06:27PM

  Isn't that a hypothetical question itself?? nm

Drew2839264December 06, 2017 07:29PM

  Re: You can tell by the yard markers

BC Ramsfan337December 06, 2017 01:39PM

  The path the ball takes doesn't matter

Drew2839311December 06, 2017 03:03PM

  Re: The path the ball takes doesn't matter

XXXIVwin289December 06, 2017 03:20PM

  Life goes on in Seattle

EternalHorns310December 06, 2017 03:55AM