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October 15, 2017 08:59AM
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wv ram
Boy thats often such a subjective and ever-evolving assessment. Was Roman Gabriel a 'franchise qb' ? He never won a ring and he had some good teams. Was Flacco? Is he still? Alex Smith? Was Kaepernik? Is he now?
Bulger? Bradford? Everett? Norm Snead? Jim Hart? Bernie Kosar? John Hadl? Boomer Esiason? Randall Cunningham? Daryl Lamonica? Kenny Anderson? John Brodie? Fran Tarkenton? Danny White? Dan Pastorini? ...The vile and despicable Joe Kapp?

Its tricky tryin to figure out who is 'good enough' to...what? Win a ring? Trent Dilfer? Good enough to....win playoff games consistently? To be clutch in big games, consistently ?

Its hard to come up with a definition, and its hard to evaluate one player when so much depends on the other 21 players in this chaotic team sport.

Goff is looking good so far. He's shown flashes of what he showed in college. The ceiling looks very high. Time will tell.

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You're mixing up "franchise qb" with "elite qb."

A franchise qb is a continuing starter the team installs with the intention of starting him for however long he plays effectively (which the team assumes will be a long time), and builds around, and makes every effort to keep. Like Stafford in Detroit.

The term implies a certain level of bottomline quality of course but is not the same as elite.

Most of the guys you named there were franchise qbs. They meet the definition.

If you want to debate which ones were elite, that's a different question.










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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/15/2017 09:03AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Do we agree that the Rams 'search for a QB is over?

RockRam696October 15, 2017 04:37AM

  Do Rams fans ever agree about anything?

NewMexicoRam177October 15, 2017 04:47AM

  Yes! so...you're wrong

zn211October 15, 2017 05:09AM

  Zn...

NewMexicoRam183October 15, 2017 08:16AM

  Re: Do Rams fans ever agree about anything?

stlramz151October 15, 2017 05:28AM

  Not enough info at this time

FootballGenius249October 15, 2017 05:44AM

  Not me.

max179October 15, 2017 06:46AM

  Re: Not me.

FootballGenius156October 15, 2017 06:48AM

  Don't tell me. Tell Kupp.

max148October 15, 2017 06:57AM

  2 picks on him

FootballGenius154October 15, 2017 07:02AM

  There's no way absolutely should be leading

9er8er180October 15, 2017 06:54AM

  why not?

zn169October 15, 2017 07:05AM

  Well well well

FootballGenius134October 15, 2017 07:09AM

  Glad to see you back, so boring reading the many positive Goff posts

max173October 15, 2017 07:12AM

  I see lots of things

9er8er158October 15, 2017 07:20AM

  Re: I see lots of things

zn155October 15, 2017 07:51AM

  Re: I agree absolutely not appropriate yet

Speed_Kills253October 15, 2017 07:58AM

  I voted “probably”.

Rams43269October 15, 2017 07:06AM

  There is room for more than a smidgen of doubt

9er8er147October 15, 2017 07:41AM

  Absolutely !!!

Rampage2K-173October 15, 2017 07:25AM

  creating meanings

wv ram128October 15, 2017 08:33AM

  IMO

zn152October 15, 2017 08:59AM

  Right in front of your face....

JamesJM181October 15, 2017 09:10AM

  Re: creating meanings

waterfield156October 15, 2017 09:33AM

  field of water

wv ram164October 15, 2017 11:26AM

  Re: field of water

waterfield159October 15, 2017 02:29PM