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Re: What did Vermeil say? (nm

August 24, 2017 05:03AM
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AlbaNY_Ram
Agree that Goff still would have been behind last season even if he had this staff to work with.

Also agree that this year's staff will benefit from Goff not being a rookie.

And also agree that lots of things went wrong last year. One of those variables last year was coaching ... and coaching matters. It seems to me that if this staff was in place last year - even with everything else staying the same - that Goff would have made more progress than he did.

No one ever argues that coaching doesn't matter.

What I argue is that a lot of the coach blame for last year is hyperbolic and loses track of a lot of other things.

I don't see how a rookie makes "more progress." I just take that as wishful thinking. He was that far behind to start with and then got buried under bad circumstances, which his own green-ness compounded.

And I believed in him the whole time. To draw this out---Austin Davis initially had more success than Goff, though that was under better conditions (no move, a decent running game, etc.) But I never believed in Davis and thought that all that happened with him was that the coaches set him up to do okay even with all his limitations. But sure enough defenses caught on and he caved. He melted down. Goff was under much worse conditions (and the list is long) AND unlike Davis was a pure green rookie on top of it. And, while he struggled, he never melted down. He himself never fell apart and kept pushing.

So I like that and he benefits from having gone through that.

But IMO he had to experience and go through being a rookie and nothing would have watered that down. It's just a right of passage and learning under fire thing. There's nothing that would have "improved" that. Or anyway, any slim chance of that happening got crushed the minute the running game tanked, and that was game 1.






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