August 23, 2017 07:54AM
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dzrams
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laram
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The D measured by points given up per game was around 9th the year before.

They finished outside of the top 10 13th to be exact in total points allowed per game in 2015.

But nice try with the "around" verbiage. lol

Btw the Rams had 53 sacks in 2013, 31 in 2016.

Easily replaceable? Not a chance! No Way smiley

I used the word "around" because I was going from memory.

In overall points given up the Rams were 12th, not 13. 2015 Points Given Up

However, that overall points metric includes points given up by the offense - pick 6's - and any points scored by ST's. Since we're only talking about how good the D was, the best and most accurate measurement is to look at only the points the D allowed relative to the rest of the league.

The offense gave up plenty that year since it was the worst O in the league.

They were exactly 9th, as I stated, once you adjust for defense stats only. 2015 Points Given Up - Defense Only

At any rate, I didn't say they were an elite D, I said they were good. That's the general consensus and the overall metrics support that.

If they had of had a healthy Quinn, the sacks and turnovers would have been higher and there is a good chance they would have been elite.

To maintain a good D, what they have gotten from Quinn the last two years is easily replaceable.

If they want the D to take a step up into elite territory, they will need the healthy, elite Quinn (and Donald). That is not so easily replaceable.

Replacing elite players and production never is.

I was just pointing out that they haven't had that already and survived. Actually, no, they did quite a bit better than survive.

In quotations. Why do you suppose they would do that? That doesn't give me comfort.

Anyway we'll agree to disagree on this one because nowhere in my world are the Rams a good D w/o a healthy Quinn.

But I will say "good" is subjective and obviously are criterias are different. I need a D that turns the ball over!

Just ask the Whiners who next to the Rams had the worst offense in the league.

Btw my 13 was closer than your 9! wink2 smiley



Best,
Laram



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/23/2017 08:01AM by laram.
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  Time to move on from Quinn

The_Zone1246August 22, 2017 04:12PM

  here is the Presser

The_Zone491August 22, 2017 04:14PM

  Next year for rush OLB is strong

alyoshamucci597August 22, 2017 04:18PM

  No Quinn+No Donald=BIG Problems D

RFIP358August 22, 2017 04:20PM

  Re: No Quinn+No Donald=BIG Problems D

alyoshamucci670August 22, 2017 04:34PM

  That's tongue in cheek right?

jemach287August 23, 2017 02:25AM

  Lol, that would make us better than the GSOT nm

rambleon223August 23, 2017 04:07AM

  agreed bro....

SunTzu_vs_Camus203August 23, 2017 08:19AM

  Re: No Quinn+No Donald=BIG Problems D

Rams43338August 22, 2017 04:55PM

  Re: No Quinn+No Donald=BIG Problems D

RFIP361August 22, 2017 05:05PM

  Re: No Quinn+No Donald=BIG Problems D

Rams43447August 22, 2017 05:19PM

  Jim's and Joe's NOT X's and O's

RFIP267August 23, 2017 12:27AM

  Re: Jim's and Joe's NOT X's and O's

Rams43227August 23, 2017 04:34AM

  Re: No Quinn+No Donald=BIG Problems D

Steve454August 22, 2017 07:57PM

  Re: No Quinn+No Donald=BIG Problems D

Classicalwit307August 23, 2017 03:51AM

  Quinn is not replaceable

Los Angeles Lenny556August 22, 2017 04:39PM

  Here's where I think the media could help....

JamesJM472August 22, 2017 04:47PM

  Re: Quinn is not replaceable

The_Zone335August 22, 2017 05:05PM

  Exactly. Always injured talent is less useful than average talent but available

RockRam445August 23, 2017 03:56AM

  his $11.44M in 2018 is though

LMU93290August 23, 2017 04:16AM

  Last 2 seasons 15 out of 32 games started

ferragamo79372August 22, 2017 04:49PM

  Or...

RamFanEsq250August 23, 2017 07:05AM

  well that's not production

ferragamo79349August 23, 2017 08:08AM

  Of course it is...

RamFanEsq221August 23, 2017 08:22AM

  Re: When healthy is just it...

dzrams215August 23, 2017 08:30AM

  Re: Quinn is replaceable...

dzrams320August 22, 2017 05:18PM

  Re: Have they?

laram354August 22, 2017 05:24PM

  Re: Bottomline? Yes...

dzrams581August 22, 2017 05:28PM

  Re: Bottomline? Yes...Nice try...

laram364August 23, 2017 04:29AM

  Try this...

snowman322August 23, 2017 07:10AM

  Re: Well he would only do that if he were healthy...

laram201August 23, 2017 07:15AM

  Re: Bottomline? Yes...Successful try...

dzrams282August 23, 2017 07:37AM

  Re: (Estimated)...

laram329August 23, 2017 07:54AM

  Re: (Estimated)...

dzrams398August 23, 2017 08:12AM

  Re: (Estimated)...

laram228August 23, 2017 08:19AM

  Re: Time to move on from Quinn

BeachBoy306August 23, 2017 02:26AM

  Nope. Not yet. After the 2017 season.

RockRam315August 23, 2017 02:31AM

  Re: It does appear that his body is falling apart

Speed_Kills225August 23, 2017 04:45AM

  Re: Time to move on from Quinn......IMHO.

oldschoolramfan281August 23, 2017 06:31AM