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Re: (Estimated)...

August 23, 2017 07:54AM
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dzrams
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laram
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The D measured by points given up per game was around 9th the year before.

They finished outside of the top 10 13th to be exact in total points allowed per game in 2015.

But nice try with the "around" verbiage. lol

Btw the Rams had 53 sacks in 2013, 31 in 2016.

Easily replaceable? Not a chance! No Way smiley

I used the word "around" because I was going from memory.

In overall points given up the Rams were 12th, not 13. 2015 Points Given Up

However, that overall points metric includes points given up by the offense - pick 6's - and any points scored by ST's. Since we're only talking about how good the D was, the best and most accurate measurement is to look at only the points the D allowed relative to the rest of the league.

The offense gave up plenty that year since it was the worst O in the league.

They were exactly 9th, as I stated, once you adjust for defense stats only. 2015 Points Given Up - Defense Only

At any rate, I didn't say they were an elite D, I said they were good. That's the general consensus and the overall metrics support that.

If they had of had a healthy Quinn, the sacks and turnovers would have been higher and there is a good chance they would have been elite.

To maintain a good D, what they have gotten from Quinn the last two years is easily replaceable.

If they want the D to take a step up into elite territory, they will need the healthy, elite Quinn (and Donald). That is not so easily replaceable.

Replacing elite players and production never is.

I was just pointing out that they haven't had that already and survived. Actually, no, they did quite a bit better than survive.

In quotations. Why do you suppose they would do that? That doesn't give me comfort.

Anyway we'll agree to disagree on this one because nowhere in my world are the Rams a good D w/o a healthy Quinn.

But I will say "good" is subjective and obviously are criterias are different. I need a D that turns the ball over!

Just ask the Whiners who next to the Rams had the worst offense in the league.

Btw my 13 was closer than your 9! wink2 smiley



Best,
Laram



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/23/2017 08:01AM by laram.
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  Time to move on from Quinn

The_Zone1242August 22, 2017 04:12PM

  here is the Presser

The_Zone489August 22, 2017 04:14PM

  Next year for rush OLB is strong

alyoshamucci595August 22, 2017 04:18PM

  No Quinn+No Donald=BIG Problems D

RFIP356August 22, 2017 04:20PM

  Re: No Quinn+No Donald=BIG Problems D

alyoshamucci667August 22, 2017 04:34PM

  That's tongue in cheek right?

jemach286August 23, 2017 02:25AM

  Lol, that would make us better than the GSOT nm

rambleon219August 23, 2017 04:07AM

  agreed bro....

SunTzu_vs_Camus201August 23, 2017 08:19AM

  Re: No Quinn+No Donald=BIG Problems D

Rams43337August 22, 2017 04:55PM

  Re: No Quinn+No Donald=BIG Problems D

RFIP359August 22, 2017 05:05PM

  Re: No Quinn+No Donald=BIG Problems D

Rams43445August 22, 2017 05:19PM

  Jim's and Joe's NOT X's and O's

RFIP265August 23, 2017 12:27AM

  Re: Jim's and Joe's NOT X's and O's

Rams43225August 23, 2017 04:34AM

  Re: No Quinn+No Donald=BIG Problems D

Steve445August 22, 2017 07:57PM

  Re: No Quinn+No Donald=BIG Problems D

Classicalwit305August 23, 2017 03:51AM

  Quinn is not replaceable

Los Angeles Lenny554August 22, 2017 04:39PM

  Here's where I think the media could help....

JamesJM470August 22, 2017 04:47PM

  Re: Quinn is not replaceable

The_Zone332August 22, 2017 05:05PM

  Exactly. Always injured talent is less useful than average talent but available

RockRam443August 23, 2017 03:56AM

  his $11.44M in 2018 is though

LMU93288August 23, 2017 04:16AM

  Last 2 seasons 15 out of 32 games started

ferragamo79370August 22, 2017 04:49PM

  Or...

RamFanEsq249August 23, 2017 07:05AM

  well that's not production

ferragamo79347August 23, 2017 08:08AM

  Of course it is...

RamFanEsq219August 23, 2017 08:22AM

  Re: When healthy is just it...

dzrams213August 23, 2017 08:30AM

  Re: Quinn is replaceable...

dzrams318August 22, 2017 05:18PM

  Re: Have they?

laram352August 22, 2017 05:24PM

  Re: Bottomline? Yes...

dzrams579August 22, 2017 05:28PM

  Re: Bottomline? Yes...Nice try...

laram362August 23, 2017 04:29AM

  Try this...

snowman320August 23, 2017 07:10AM

  Re: Well he would only do that if he were healthy...

laram198August 23, 2017 07:15AM

  Re: Bottomline? Yes...Successful try...

dzrams280August 23, 2017 07:37AM

  Re: (Estimated)...

laram327August 23, 2017 07:54AM

  Re: (Estimated)...

dzrams391August 23, 2017 08:12AM

  Re: (Estimated)...

laram226August 23, 2017 08:19AM

  Re: Time to move on from Quinn

BeachBoy304August 23, 2017 02:26AM

  Nope. Not yet. After the 2017 season.

RockRam313August 23, 2017 02:31AM

  Re: It does appear that his body is falling apart

Speed_Kills224August 23, 2017 04:45AM

  Re: Time to move on from Quinn......IMHO.

oldschoolramfan279August 23, 2017 06:31AM