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Re: Amen, amen, amen!

August 13, 2017 10:32AM
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The more i see/hear of this team the less i like Fisher as a coach.

I just thought that team McV put together looks....like an NFL team.

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I have been bashing Fisher for a long time because, to me, coaching failure could be read in continued team failure. I know not everyone bought into that.

But what I have long believed was that it would take the experience of good coaching to bring into relief the degree to which our team failure was largely Fisher's failure.

And I think your one sentence says it brilliantly: we saw a team last night that was COACHED.

That depends. You are of course completely convinced by your argument so naturally you want to believe that with a new (and obviously quite good) coaching staff, others will soon see it your way.

I for one don't. I turn the tables on the "failing to see" thing and note this: if over the next 4 years the large majority of Rams games are played with both extensive OL injuries AND #2 caliber qbs, I don't think they will do as well as expected.

Looking at 2012-2015 (cause IMO 2016 was an entirely different animal) do you know how many Rams games were played with BOTH a relatively healthy OL and a #1 caliber qb? Well not counting Foles as a starting caliber qb---which I think he is still proving (no starting offers in a qb starved league)---the total of 64 games played under those conditions was 15.

15 of 64.

Btw I don't count Mannion as a #2 caliber qb, I think he's starting to prove he's at least an average starter in terms of his caliber.

So no not everyone sees all that the same way.

And that's nothing against the new coaching stuff, which I think is high quality (I already believed in Kromer and Phillips before the season), or the new team, which looks very good so far, to the point where it's easy to expect more of the same.

Of course one reason they looked so good last night is because they aren't relying on a #2 caliber qb (Keenum) to be a placeholder for one of the greenest qbs to ever play for a Rams team (Goff, from the Air Raid college spread).

I like this team and this staff. A lot, actually. But not everyone will ever agree that the last 5 years was JUST coaching. I for one hope that the new regime remains much more stable at qb and on the OL. That will be a considerable help.

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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 08/13/2017 10:49AM by zn.
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  Expectations.... maybe I misread everyone....

JamesJM1057August 13, 2017 03:09AM

  "I saw improvement everywhere"...

wv ram428August 13, 2017 04:14AM

  But not the right side of the OL

max400August 13, 2017 04:59AM

  i saw an nfl team

wv ram499August 13, 2017 05:48AM

  You got lucky....

JamesJM281August 13, 2017 05:52AM

  fisher bashing...

wv ram249August 13, 2017 09:50AM

  Amen, amen, amen!

RFL240August 13, 2017 10:24AM

  Re: Amen, amen, amen!

zn226August 13, 2017 10:32AM

  i want my fisher-basher button

wv ram216August 13, 2017 12:43PM

  Re: i want my fisher-basher button

zn210August 13, 2017 12:58PM

  3-eyed Ram

wv ram208August 13, 2017 01:16PM

  Re: 3-eyed Ram

zn216August 13, 2017 01:49PM

  Re: i want my fisher-basher button Attachments

VANRAM208August 13, 2017 02:55PM

  Re: Expectations.... maybe I misread everyone....

zn541August 13, 2017 04:32AM

  I thnk you are right Jimmy

GreatRamNTheSky329August 13, 2017 04:43AM

  Question...

jemach262August 13, 2017 05:26AM

  Re: Question...

zn244August 13, 2017 05:51AM

  Try to see this team for what it is.

RFL222August 13, 2017 10:20AM

  Thank you. nm

Saguaro210August 13, 2017 10:28AM

  You understand blocking?

JamesJM226August 13, 2017 10:34AM

  LOL. Well, I understand blocking circa 1972!

RFL221August 13, 2017 10:52AM

  Re: Question...

dzrams204August 13, 2017 06:29PM

  ++1....nm

Arkansas Ram333August 13, 2017 05:14AM

  ZN I think some people are expecting dominance, or flashy attack style passing.

six2stack255August 13, 2017 05:18AM

  dropped balls, fumbles, bad oline play

ferragamo79334August 13, 2017 05:45AM

  Re: Expectations.... maybe I misread everyone....

oldschoolramfan242August 13, 2017 05:49AM

  Re: Expectations.... maybe I misread everyone....

Rams43544August 13, 2017 06:05AM

  On Mannion ...

RFL221August 13, 2017 11:01AM

  +1 (nm)

zn190August 13, 2017 11:04AM

  Re: On Mannion ...

Rams43219August 13, 2017 12:09PM

  How much of it was on Mannion?

RFL202August 13, 2017 12:29PM

  Re: How much of it was on Mannion?

Rams43204August 13, 2017 12:35PM

  Backup OL and fumbles

LMU93262August 13, 2017 06:11AM

  Re: Backup OL and fumbles

zn262August 13, 2017 06:19AM

  Nice analysis ZN

RounderRick227August 13, 2017 06:33AM

  Re: Backup OL and fumbles

bigjimram21226August 13, 2017 08:21AM

  defensive starters--snap counts

zn220August 13, 2017 10:02AM

  Passing game is improved

Rams_81247August 13, 2017 09:04AM

  I loved it.

RFL255August 13, 2017 09:50AM

  amen (nm

wv ram278August 13, 2017 09:53AM

  I saw the same thing.

GlacieRam387August 13, 2017 10:33AM

  I agree and that was the perfect way to put it

Rams_81290August 13, 2017 11:36AM

  Agreed

LBRamsFan209August 14, 2017 09:13AM

  Comparing it to the last game of the season last year...

Atlantic Ram233August 13, 2017 12:30PM