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In addition to sequence, purpose is also crucial.
The purpose of sitting out is not to make them cave, it's to protect against injury. IMO the former is a demand, the latter is smart and isn't a demand.
And say you know agent your client Aaron Donald has outplayed his present contract, let's do a new one 2 years before we actually have to, deal?
Donald's agent went to the Rams and proposed that the Rams tear up his present contract and do a new contract because he has outperformed his present contract.
Donalds agent then informed the Rams he would not be showing up until he had a new deal.
That IS a demand.
The Rams approaching AD's agent would be very surprising.
In this scenario, I agree that it's a demand. As zn asked, how do you know this was the sequence?
How do you know it's not:
1) Donald's agent goes to the Rams
2) Rams agree that AD deserves an extension and want to give him one b/c they want him to be a Ram for life
3) Months later, Donald's agent informs the Rams that AD will he sitting out so he doesn't get injured
From what I can tell, my scenario is much closer to reality and does not constitute a demand.
A
request or
insistence is considered a demand. It is not determined by how its received.
If you have ever fact checked anything I've shared on this board as "fact", you would already have the answer.
About 12 years ago Shaky and I were going to do an "inside" piece for the Herd, I/we decided not to because of stuff like this.
Internet pissing contest. I was vetted years ago.
And I didn't say you said anything, I used my scenario to illustrate my point.
I agree that how a demand is received isn't what makes it a demand. It's how the request is given. There's a difference between requesting and insisting. To request is to ask. To insist is to forcefully ask and not take no for an answer. Insisting is synonymous with demanding.
Basically a demand is a request with force. The force being you're going to do something or not do something - e.g. holdout - if the other party doesn't satisfy your request.
So if in fact you are correct that the purpose of AD sitting out is not to protect himself from injury but is rather to put pressure on the Rams to cave to his wishes, then yeah, that's a demand.
I know you've been vetted. Just didn't know if you're saying that's the way this situation could be versus is in fact. The timing of it makes it appear to me as a none forceful situation since the threat of sitting out was months down the road when the process started.
I thought that was a given, but as I said before I know he has an insurance policy.
Why do you think Mack reported?
I know Mack reported because he knows that the Raiders are gonna take care of him.
IF AD felt that way about the Rams do you think he would have reported?
Note: For clarification not saying he does or doesn't, I don't know for sure but IF its killing him as much as he says, and he feels the Rams got his back...seems to me he would report!
That's ME.
de·mand
dəˈmand/Submit
noun
noun: demand; plural noun: demands
1.
an insistent and peremptory request, made as if by right.
"a series of demands for far-reaching reforms"
synonyms: request, call, command, order, dictate, ultimatum, stipulation
"I gave in to her demands"
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Laram