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not going to debate it more than to say on this you are simply taking a position either in favor of Jeff or against VY either way you are not providing the info in a way that is relevant to the original post. Seemed to me that Jeff has not proven to be great with QBs or offense and more than that Jeff has not been a successful HC in nearly a decade. So VY may not be even considered great. He is the only thing that makes Jeff Fishers record even better than mediocre.

No sorry old friend, I don;'t agree. VY was his own worst enemy and a head case and was that from the start. The fact that he is a head case is exemplified by the fact that of all the qbs out there who struggled and failed, he's the only one publicly blaming it on his first head coach, who apparently was such a demonic dracula-like force ( ) that he messed up the entire rest of his career too (sarcasm alert, meaning...that's all nonsense IMO...Fisher did not get him cut from 4 other teams in a row, and if he really believes that that is because of his first coach, that just goes to show how deep the problems go).

Bradford had a decent stretch with him and so did McNair of course and so did Collins.

And anyway this isn;'t even really about Fisher, and I don't want to get into another Fisher War. Rest assured though we see all that completely differently. No, to me, it';s about Young and his inability to see what's real in the mirror.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2017 09:07PM by zn.