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May 31, 2017 08:55AM
No contract, no problem for Rams' Warner
[qctimes.com]

Craig DeVrieze, QUAD-CITY TIMES — July 21, 2000 Jul 21, 2000
MACOMB, Ill. — Kurt Warner will start the 2000 season the way he finished the 1999 campaign.

By doing the unthinkable.

Against the advice of his agent and virtually all NFL precedent, the reigning league and Super Bowl MVP reported to St. Louis Rams training camp here Thursday at Western Illinois University without a contract.

An exclusive rights free agent, Warner said he planned to sign a minimal tender offer of $358,000 this morning if late-night negotiations between the Rams and his agent Mark Bartelstein failed to yield a multi-million dollar, long-term deal.

Talks between the two sides continued Thursday night, but Bartelstein told the Associated Press that a late-night deal was unlikely.

By signing the tender offer to take the practice field at 8:55 this morning, Warner would commit himself to playing for only a little more than a $100,000 raise on his 1999 salary. And that is after leading the Rams to a Super Bowl title, throwing for a Super Bowl-record 441 yards and finishing with the fifth-highest single-season quarterback rating in NFL history.

"Definitely a lot of risk, but I feel this is what I'm all about," Warner said on his way to an offensive meeting here Thursday night. "I don't want to miss anything. That's why I came here. To practice from Day One and show my teammates that I wanted to be here.

"I will definitely sign something so I can be out there."

The signed tender deal will not end negotiations between the two sides toward the long-term contract Warner is seeking. Bartelstein declined to discuss Warner's contract goals with Associated Press, but the Rams reportedly have offered a deal of seven years, with as much as $10 million in upfront signing bonus included, and have been turned down.

Throughout the week, St. Louis media had been reporting that an agreement was close and Warner said he believes that, too. Still, he said that wasn't why he opted to report to training camp — against Bartelstien's advice — without a signed long-term contract.

"He's basically trusting the thing will get done in good faith," the agent said. "That's the way he runs his life. I think this truly shows the kind of character he has."

That's typical agent talk, but Cedar Rapids, Iowa, native Warner continues to show he is no ordinary client.

"I realize the reason I'm here is a bigger purpose than making millions of dollars and throwing touchdown passes," Warner said. "To me that's the biggest thing that weighs into it. Every decision I make, a lot of prayer goes into it and I just felt that the Lord wanted me here.

"He put me here for a reason. He's going to take care of the rest. It's all in his hands and for that reason I know it's going to get worked out and benefit me in the end."

The 29-year-old bagged groceries and played for the Arena Football League Iowa Barnstormers before joining the Rams as a free agent in 1997. He was scheduled to be the Rams' backup quarterback last year, but took over the starting job when free-agent pickup Trent Green was lost for the year to a preseason knee injury.

He went on to throw for 4,353 yards and 41 touchdowns, igniting the surprising Rams to 13-3 record and the NFC West title. He completed 77 of 121 passes for 1,063 yards and eight touchdowns in three postseason.



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SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Unless Donald is willing to take big discount, Rams should be in no hurry to sign him

Rampage2K-1375May 29, 2017 09:20AM

  Not if he doesn't show up

TonyHunter87571May 29, 2017 09:26AM

  Re: Not if he doesn't show up

Rampage2K-507May 29, 2017 09:31AM

  Is it all about the contract? Thought talks were serious??

TonyHunter87440May 29, 2017 09:39AM

  completely disagree

zn458May 29, 2017 10:29AM

  Re: completely disagree

Rampage2K-424May 29, 2017 10:52AM

  you don't know that

zn529May 29, 2017 11:12AM

  The financials you speak of make sense but consider

Rams_81508May 29, 2017 11:25AM

  Re: The financials you speak of make sense but consider

RFIP403May 29, 2017 11:36AM

  He may want to "walk" though

LesBaker389May 29, 2017 01:17PM

  Re: He may want to "walk" though

Rampage2K-466May 29, 2017 01:36PM

  In one way I agree in another I disagree

LesBaker353May 30, 2017 02:19PM

  This is different from Ziggy's mess ups

Rams_81338May 29, 2017 03:13PM

  not really

zn468May 29, 2017 03:32PM

  Warner never held out with the Rams....

Rampage2K-378May 29, 2017 04:57PM

  Yes

TonyHunter87381May 29, 2017 05:21PM

  we are both part wrong...Faulk absolutely did hold out, yes

zn429May 29, 2017 05:51PM

  Seems like I remember Warner..

sstrams339May 31, 2017 06:21AM

  Re: Seems like I remember Warner..

zn320May 31, 2017 06:35AM

  Re: Seems like I remember Warner..

TonyHunter87335May 31, 2017 07:53AM

  In case that was meant for me..

sstrams301May 31, 2017 08:55AM

  Re: Unless Donald is willing to take big discount, Rams should be in no hurry to sign him

RFIP377May 29, 2017 11:16AM

  Yes you are right

LesBaker360May 30, 2017 02:25PM

  Re: Unless Donald is willing to take big discount, Rams should be in no hurry to sign him

Rampage2K-331May 30, 2017 02:36PM

  Re: Unless Donald is willing to take big discount, Rams should be in no hurry to sign him

VANRAM464May 30, 2017 05:33PM

  2 years yes but 4 will be costly

LesBaker392May 29, 2017 01:00PM

  I favor extending him now, but with caveats...

Rams43346May 29, 2017 01:36PM

  Guaranteed $ and hold out fines

headslapper318May 29, 2017 02:01PM

  Re: Guaranteed $ and hold out fines

Rampage2K-375May 29, 2017 02:03PM

  Re: Guaranteed $ and hold out fines

headslapper384May 29, 2017 02:13PM

  Re: I favor extending him now, but with caveats...

bigjimram21350May 29, 2017 08:42PM

  Re: I favor extending him now, but with caveats...

tonyde339May 30, 2017 11:02AM

  Best player Rams have had since 2003

ferragamo79398May 29, 2017 03:56PM

  +1...

LMU93415May 30, 2017 04:07AM

  The question for me is how much he'll impact in Phillip's D.

RockRam396May 30, 2017 04:25AM

  why wouldn't he have an impact in WP's D?

zn469May 30, 2017 10:54AM

  He's not only the best player on the Rams, he's the best DT in the game

promomasterj376May 30, 2017 09:51AM

  +1.... (nm)

LMU93329May 30, 2017 11:17AM

  Re: +1.... (nm) plus, another +1 (nm)

zn364May 30, 2017 11:50AM

  Re: He's not only the best player on the Rams, he's the best DT in the game

Rams43508May 30, 2017 11:33AM

  He should be paid like the best DT in the league

promomasterj370May 30, 2017 11:40AM

  Re: He should be paid like the best DT in the league

Rams43357May 30, 2017 11:49AM

  I will go one step further

zn398May 30, 2017 12:06PM

  he's getting Von Miller money, period

LMU93937May 30, 2017 01:17PM

  For ZN and 93...

Rams43350May 30, 2017 02:10PM

  Re: For ZN and 93...

zn371May 30, 2017 05:23PM

  Re: For ZN and 93...

Rams43352May 30, 2017 05:53PM

  I just think impact trumps position

LMU93550May 31, 2017 03:31AM

  Re: I just think impact trumps position

Rams43341May 31, 2017 04:43AM

  Re: I just think impact trumps position

LMU93340May 31, 2017 05:13AM

  Re: I just think impact trumps position

Rams43372May 31, 2017 05:28AM

  other UFAs

LMU93324May 31, 2017 05:43AM

  remember, I said one of the 4-5 best defenders in the game, that's his contract peer group

zn367May 31, 2017 03:46AM

  Re: remember, I said one of the 4-5 best defenders in the game, that's his contract peer group

Rams43311May 31, 2017 04:51AM

  Troy Polamalu flashback

snowman342May 31, 2017 04:50AM

  Re: The numbers show differently...Averages for highest paid positions

dzrams498May 30, 2017 07:23PM

  Re: The numbers show differently...Averages for highest paid positions

Rams43343May 31, 2017 05:05AM

  Re: The numbers show differently...Averages for highest paid positions

dzrams333May 31, 2017 07:56AM

  Re: The numbers show differently...Averages for highest paid positions

Rams43335May 31, 2017 08:45AM

  Re: The numbers show differently...Averages for highest paid positions

dzrams331May 31, 2017 09:35AM

  Re: The numbers show differently...Averages for highest paid positions

zn333May 31, 2017 10:05AM

  Re: The numbers show differently...Averages for highest paid positions

Rams43352May 31, 2017 10:13AM

  need more popcorn for this

snowman344May 31, 2017 12:30PM

  Re: The numbers show differently...Averages for highest paid positions

zn314May 31, 2017 01:14PM

  Re: The numbers show differently...Averages for highest paid positions

Rams43457May 31, 2017 10:09AM

  Luckily we don't have a QB, DE, or LOT due big money...

promomasterj495May 31, 2017 08:17AM

  already gave our DE big money...

Rampage2K-285May 31, 2017 08:24AM

  His deal will be off the books soon, or can be

promomasterj304May 31, 2017 08:40AM

  Re: already gave our DE big money...

zn335May 31, 2017 01:19PM

  I'm just frustrated in all this... no idea who to blame...

JamesJM357May 30, 2017 03:03PM

  Re: I'm just frustrated in all this... no idea who to blame...

Rampage2K-356May 30, 2017 04:38PM

  Re: I'm just frustrated in all this... no idea who to blame...

zn362May 30, 2017 05:16PM

  I don't know is an assumption?

JamesJM364May 30, 2017 05:28PM

  Re: I don't know is an assumption?

zn349May 30, 2017 05:32PM

  Well I certainly don't know that...

JamesJM340May 30, 2017 05:36PM

  Faulk didn't hold out

TonyHunter87335May 30, 2017 06:11PM

  I already posted the evidence on this...yes he did

zn275May 30, 2017 06:35PM

  He was holding out with the colts

TonyHunter87347May 30, 2017 06:54PM

  Re: He was holding out with the colts

zn339May 30, 2017 07:17PM

  That's why the colts traded him

TonyHunter87357May 30, 2017 08:49PM

  Re: That's why the colts traded him

zn337May 30, 2017 09:24PM

  Warner definitely never held out

TonyHunter87330May 30, 2017 09:40PM

  does that post say he did?

zn451May 30, 2017 10:27PM

  Re: Unless Donald is willing to take big discount, Rams should be in no hurry to sign him

GarlicExile366May 31, 2017 12:49PM

  Interesting take...

JamesJM349May 31, 2017 01:18PM

  This is all about injuries

PeoriaRa385June 01, 2017 05:29AM

  Re: This is all about injuries

zn337June 01, 2017 05:41AM

  Re: This is all about injuries

dzrams316June 01, 2017 07:51AM

  Re: This is all about injuries

zn325June 01, 2017 08:19AM

  Re: This is all about injuries

Rampage2K-202June 01, 2017 10:33AM

  Re: This is all about injuries

zn323June 01, 2017 10:38AM

  Re: This is all about injuries

Rampage2K-341June 01, 2017 10:45AM

  Re: This is all about injuries

zn304June 01, 2017 10:50AM

  Re: This is all about injuries

Rampage2K-328June 01, 2017 10:21AM