April 22, 2017 12:51PM
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Arguably a quick release can produce velocity too.

A good case in point was Bulger. Bulger didn't have a WEAK arm by any means, but it wasn't a cannon. But he had a very quick release. He could throw those deep out and deep dig lasers as well as anyone.

I think Goff has arm talent, for sure...it's there, it's visible. But I really don't know how much of it is arm strength, having a quick release, or some kind of combination.

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I've seen everyone of his throws from college to the NFL. Goff has never given me the impression that the velocity/speed on his throws was ever close to eye popping.

There are some throws that he makes in the 10, 15 and even 30 yard range that have very good speed/velocity but most of them have been in the middle areas of the field. (as opposed to sideline throws when he's shaded to the opposite side of the hash marks or throwing across his body.

His deep out patterns are nothing special and his 35 - 40 plus yard deep balls are often times under thrown because he launches the ball a half second late. If he had better arm talent and extra zip/velocity on this throws this wouldn't be the case.

To me, he doesn't have the arm strength/velocity to throw the deep fly/skinny post patterns a half second late like quarterbacks with big arms can get away with.

McVay, LaFleur and Olsen need to work on him with his release timing with deep out patterns and the depth areas of the field where his lack of arm strength or velocity are lacking.

(Sure he has a good arm strength but far from a gun or any kind of special speed/velocity to make all the difficult throws without compensation from the timing of his release.... at least from what my eyes tell me)

He had problems under throwing wide open deep balls at Cal even though they were completed because the WR adjusted by slowing down to make the catch.

His pocket presence at Cal along with his ability to adjust his throwing speeds on many of his throws (an issue many NFL QB's suffer from) is what I liked about him. His quick release and accuracy when he's in a rhythm was the other.

I never thought he had strong arm or an special velocity traits that separated him from Wentz or past top 10 rated quarterbacks going into the draft.

ve·loc·i·ty the speed of something in a given direction. (there are directions/areas of the football field where his lack of velocity needs to be compensated by the timing of his release.


Hey Florida.

Not sure why you quoted me, or whom you are disagreeing with?

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  Goff has more velocity on his throws than any QB in this year's draft

RockRam891April 22, 2017 06:18AM

  The Young Man Can Throw the Rock!

GreatRamNTheSky247April 22, 2017 06:27AM

  Re: Trumpery...

laram262April 22, 2017 06:32AM

  Which is why it meant zero for Jamarcus Russell....

RFIP275April 22, 2017 07:16AM

  to be fair RR addressed that in his post...

zn245April 22, 2017 07:42AM

  True. But Case Keenum was called noodle arm around here

RockRam284April 22, 2017 09:16AM

  Re: Arm strength and velocity are separate traits...

laram274April 22, 2017 09:22AM

  I didn't see that at all

zn240April 22, 2017 09:30AM

  Sorry LA, you're wrong: velocity IS the measure of arm strength

RockRam220April 22, 2017 09:48AM

  Re: Cam Newton and Andy Dalton...

laram178April 22, 2017 09:56AM

  I find that hard to believe

LesBaker181April 22, 2017 11:23AM

  Re: Yeah I can't either but that's what his list says...

laram166April 22, 2017 11:38AM

  That looks to be true

9er8er138April 22, 2017 11:59AM

  Re: Sorry LA, you're wrong: velocity IS the measure of arm strength

zn350April 22, 2017 09:56AM

  Sorry LA, you're wrong: No he's not

Anonymous User286April 22, 2017 11:59AM

  Re: Sorry LA, you're wrong: No he's not

zn223April 22, 2017 12:51PM

  Don't know how much velocity Bobby Douglass for the Bears had but....

NewMexicoRam195April 22, 2017 11:17AM

  Not a list, but here's a few QBs velocity

RockRam256April 22, 2017 09:38AM

  Re: Watch Russell Wilsons ball vs Goff's..

laram231April 22, 2017 09:46AM

  Watching it is no gauge.

RockRam205April 22, 2017 09:53AM

  This really is mostly useless

9er8er189April 22, 2017 10:57AM

  Re: This really is mostly useless

waterfield244April 22, 2017 01:54PM

  Goff needs to do some squats if he wants to throw harder and longer

LesBaker204April 22, 2017 12:11PM

  Re: True dat!!....nm

laram170April 22, 2017 12:20PM

  Problem

waterfield166April 22, 2017 01:50PM

  Re: Trumpery... Okay and ........

GreatRamNTheSky150April 23, 2017 04:18AM

  Not sure where you're getting that info

9er8er223April 22, 2017 11:02AM

  If it was just about the numbers

LesBaker149April 22, 2017 11:44AM

  Re: Not sure where you're getting that info

GreatRamNTheSky200April 23, 2017 04:21AM

  Re: Goff has more velocity on his throws than any QB in this year's draft

SoCalRAMatic150April 22, 2017 12:21PM

  This article tells me all I need to know!

RFIP182April 22, 2017 12:28PM

  The test is junk

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