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Re: PFF Grade

February 13, 2017 10:18AM
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Rams_81
Why discredit the pff grade?
I believe grades have something to do with:

3) Missed assignments - blocking nobody
4) Missed run blocks


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Because without knowing the exact Ram Playbook protection Scheme and or/whatever the QB checked into at the LoS when looking at the defense it is IMPOSSIBLE to know which OL are missing assignments in ZBS. There are way too many combinations and adjustment responsibility's to account for. When you add to the equation a late blitz/line shift/stunt by the defense new assignments and special contingencies apply.

On any given blitz/stunt/twist vs a certain variation of a play from whatever formation and protection package call that goes with it, I am indeed contending that PFF does not possibly know the correct blocking assignment responsibilities for the play call. It goes even deeper than that. They can't even possibly know what the QB or center checked the line into at the LoS. Then even further they don't know what the coaches have told them what they do in situational adjustments responsibilities when the defense dials up something exotic.

Here is a running play from the Martz 2000 Playbook. Its is only assigned for a 4-3 without accounting for exotic shift/blitz stunt contingencies. Which like we all know, happen frequently.


If you notice the "Alert is Cal". Which changes the LT assignment on the play entirely. Are you going to seriously going to tell me first that PFF has ever play for every single team with every variations and combination of correct blocking assignment against every possible defense? Second, do they have listening devices to intercept and interpret the "Alert" by the QB at the LoS? This is pretty critical information if you asked me if I was grading a play and was going to assign who exactly missed a given assignment.




I could easily go into more detail, but i do not have the time.


SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  An excellent GRob post by Hacksaw_64...

Rams432010February 11, 2017 09:43AM

  Is it excellent cause its an optimist post?

max796February 11, 2017 10:40AM

  Re: Is it excellent cause its an optimist post?

Rams43617February 11, 2017 10:46AM

  It's' more than just optimistic

waterfield615February 11, 2017 11:20AM

  there's just going to be different ways of seeing things like this

zn461February 11, 2017 11:37AM

  Re: there's just going to be different ways of seeing things like this

bigjimram21406February 11, 2017 02:02PM

  I believe GRob's biggest fault

reggae616February 11, 2017 11:49AM

  Re: Is it excellent cause its an optimist post?

stlramz430February 11, 2017 01:08PM

  Re: Is it excellent cause its an optimist post?

BobCarl368February 11, 2017 03:23PM

  Re: An excellent GRob post by Hacksaw_64...

dzrams572February 11, 2017 11:45AM

  Re: An excellent GRob post by Hacksaw_64...

zn536February 11, 2017 01:16PM

  Re: An excellent GRob post by Hacksaw_64...

dzrams402February 11, 2017 02:25PM

  Re: An excellent GRob post by Hacksaw_64...

zn459February 11, 2017 02:29PM

  I base it on watching games and

Rams_81621February 12, 2017 07:52AM

  i would say to Hacksaw and you...

jemach429February 13, 2017 04:24PM

  Re: You lost me with the Jimmy Johnson quote...

laram463February 11, 2017 01:18PM

  Re: You lost me with the Jimmy Johnson quote...

Rams43469February 11, 2017 01:44PM

  Re: You lost me with the Jimmy Johnson quote...

dzrams761February 11, 2017 02:46PM

  Re: That's fair but here's the rub....

laram454February 11, 2017 03:08PM

  Re: This is fair too...

dzrams438February 12, 2017 08:10AM

  Re: This is fair too...

zn395February 12, 2017 09:54AM

  Ignorance and stupidly are not the same...

jemach405February 13, 2017 04:32PM

  Re: They learned to as hopefully Robinson will...NM

laram399February 13, 2017 04:42PM

  Repeated mistakes

RFIP388February 11, 2017 07:43PM

  Lol...

jemach341February 13, 2017 04:18PM

  Here's Hacksaw_64

BobCarl635February 11, 2017 03:34PM

  Re: Here's Hacksaw_64

dzrams552February 11, 2017 06:54PM

  his 5th year option is over $11.9M

LMU93371February 12, 2017 02:44AM

  Re: his 5th year option is over $11.9M

Rams43463February 12, 2017 06:46AM

  Re: Echo that, and agreed

leafnose523February 12, 2017 09:51AM

  Re: Here's Hacksaw_64

BobCarl489February 12, 2017 07:06AM

  why would he want to come back?

Rams_81376February 12, 2017 08:06AM

  Re: Here's Hacksaw_64

dzrams369February 12, 2017 08:06AM

  How about Scottie --- No!

jemach364February 12, 2017 09:27AM

  Spring must be approaching

ferragamo79372February 12, 2017 07:05AM

  All of that may be true but he is a liability because

Rams_81439February 12, 2017 07:38AM

  I have never seen so much forgiveness for bad play

Rams_81353February 12, 2017 07:49AM

  Isn't that the truth...

jemach368February 12, 2017 09:25AM

  This is a rose colored glass post...bottle glass...

jemach508February 12, 2017 09:22AM

  Re: This is a rose colored glass post...bottle glass...

Rams43528February 12, 2017 11:32AM

  Re: This is a rose colored glass post...bottle glass...

Hacksaw_64399February 12, 2017 12:55PM

  PFF Grade

Rams_81475February 12, 2017 03:23PM

  Re: PFF Grade

no name523February 13, 2017 03:25AM

  Re: PFF Grade

RamJr408February 13, 2017 04:04AM

  Re: PFF Grade

no name348February 13, 2017 05:08AM

  Re: PFF Grade

RamJr344February 13, 2017 05:39AM

  Re: Good points…

dzrams394February 13, 2017 07:23AM

  Re: PFF is a "joke" among NFL players and insiders...

laram429February 13, 2017 08:06AM

  Re: PFF is a "joke" among NFL players and insiders...

dzrams385February 13, 2017 10:41AM

  Re: Last I heard there were 11 teams subscribed...nm

laram1013February 13, 2017 10:53AM

  Re: That's significant...

dzrams368February 13, 2017 12:33PM

  Re: That's significant...

laram361February 13, 2017 12:43PM

  Re: That's significant...

BobCarl341February 13, 2017 01:22PM

  Re: That's significant...

dzrams348February 13, 2017 02:23PM

  Re: A Red Herring...NM

laram376February 13, 2017 02:42PM

  Re: Not sure how but it's ok...NM

dzrams323February 13, 2017 04:15PM

  Re: That's significant...

BobCarl330February 13, 2017 03:33PM

  Re: Fair enough...we disagree (NM)

dzrams337February 13, 2017 04:14PM

  Re: Last I heard there were 11 teams subscribed...nm

RamJr353February 14, 2017 03:03AM

  Re: Last I heard there were 11 teams subscribed...nm

laram690February 14, 2017 04:36AM

  Re: Last I heard there were 11 teams subscribed...nm

RamJr630February 14, 2017 05:18AM

  The key question is this:

Blue and Gold412February 14, 2017 05:43AM

  Re: False equivalence....

laram401February 14, 2017 06:33AM

  Re: False equivalence....

dzrams334February 14, 2017 07:34AM

  Re: False equivalence....

laram354February 14, 2017 07:43AM

  Re: False equivalence....

dzrams429February 14, 2017 08:07AM

  Re: I've never seen evidence of this...

laram352February 14, 2017 08:12AM

  Re: The precise number doesn't matter...

dzrams336February 14, 2017 09:08AM

  Re: I don't agree with that at all....

laram519February 14, 2017 09:18AM

  Re: Ok, we disagree again, no biggie...

dzrams431February 14, 2017 09:56AM

  It should drop

Blue and Gold491February 14, 2017 10:27AM

  Re: False equivalence....

BobCarl384February 14, 2017 09:01AM

  Re: False equivalence....

Blue and Gold451February 14, 2017 10:15AM

  Re: And...

laram393February 14, 2017 10:18AM

  Re: False equivalence....

BobCarl434February 14, 2017 04:38PM

  Re: PFF is a "joke" among NFL players and insiders...

no name424February 14, 2017 09:45AM

  Re:What number do you believe to be true and why? (NM)

dzrams277February 14, 2017 10:12AM

  Re: PFF Grade

no name388February 13, 2017 08:02AM

  Re: PFF Grade Attachments

Hacksaw_64481February 13, 2017 10:18AM

  Re: Gr8 post....NM

laram412February 13, 2017 10:23AM

  Not a fan of PFF

Blue and Gold360February 13, 2017 10:36AM

  You said "I could easily go into more detail, but i do not have the time."

LesBaker339February 13, 2017 01:45PM

  Re: This is a rose colored glass post...bottle glass...

dzrams321February 12, 2017 04:36PM

  He gets himself in the grey area because

Rams_81372February 12, 2017 04:59PM

  Re: This is a rose colored glass post...bottle glass...

BobCarl340February 13, 2017 12:28AM

  He might be a bust at LT, but also might be a serviceable Guard

RockRam350February 13, 2017 01:02AM

  This is why the draft pick is so so bad

Rams_81438February 13, 2017 02:54AM

  Re: This is why the draft pick is so so bad

Rams43449February 13, 2017 04:54AM

  They were not 2nd pick in the draft

Rams_81410February 13, 2017 05:43AM

  Re: They were not 2nd pick in the draft

Rams43338February 13, 2017 06:16AM

  Re: Rams only hope for GRob......

oldschoolramfan352February 13, 2017 06:38AM

  I count only 2

Rams_81355February 13, 2017 06:51AM

  Re: I count only 2

Rams43352February 13, 2017 06:56AM

  I think you are devaluing position of a draft pick

Rams_81571February 13, 2017 06:59AM

  Re: I think you are devaluing position of a draft pick

Rams43455February 13, 2017 07:04AM

  THat is a good point

Rams_81985February 13, 2017 07:09AM

  Re: THat is a good point

Rams43359February 13, 2017 07:31AM

  Re: I count only 2

dzrams486February 13, 2017 07:50AM

  This is the key part

Rams_81349February 13, 2017 08:15AM

  Re: This is the key part

Rams43764February 13, 2017 09:12AM

  Re: This is the key part

dzrams335February 13, 2017 10:02AM

  Re: I count only 2

Rams43342February 13, 2017 09:09AM

  it won't be a smart team....

jemach329February 13, 2017 04:34PM

  Re: An excellent GRob post by Hacksaw_64...

govane508February 13, 2017 06:53AM

  has that ever happened - i like it

Rams_81529February 13, 2017 06:57AM

  BillyT has been banging that drum for months

RamUK567February 14, 2017 05:26AM