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All persuasive points, Z. But that's not incompatible with my speculation

December 13, 2016 09:07AM
I also think that SK had a lot of (misplaced) faith in Fisher for the 2016 season. BUT, all of this information could have and should have been in SK's mind BEFORE they even played a down in LA. Knowing that if Jeff Fisher delivers a losing season, he will never be able to hawk what Fisher's selling to LA for even one more year of that 2 year contract. PSLs were surely on his mind from the moment the move was made final (and surely before!). PSL didn't suddenly became relevant when the Rams got spanked yet again at home in week 13 when the Rams were already essentially eliminated from contention anyway.

The man who "forced Kroenke's hand" is his own Head Coach Jeff Fisher. It's no coincidence that 9 losses dropped the hammer. My hypothesis is that from the get-go SK knew that a losing Rams team wasn't going to fly in LA, and was already prepared to cut ties with Fisher the very next day that that 9-loss marker was reached.

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I suspect it was more like "If Jeff Fisher delivers another losing season, he's gone." In the interview with KD, they talked about the Fisher extension and why they were firing him now, his explanation was that they wanted to avoid a "lame duck year" in their first season of the Big Return Home, and that makes sense to me.

I'd speculate that the decision to fire Fisher after 9 losses was all but made before the first game was even played in LA, and the brutal manner of those recent losses only solidified that decision. SK appears to me to be a very deliberate man, not one to "cave under pressure of media". The way he left them out in the cold in STL for years tells me that he doesn't really seem to care what they think.

No, he doesn't care what the media and fans think under normal circumstances, but he does care about selling PSLs for the new stadium, and those go on sale in January, I believe. He was leaving St. Louis anyway, and the apathy/anger of media/fans there only served his larger goal. That isn't the case now.

He needs the cash flow to finance construction. And if LA is disenchanted, PSL sales will be slower and smaller in total.

Imagine if the Rams had made the playoffs this year.

He would be able to sell PSLs out in a couple of weeks. So the perception of the Rams is tightly bound up with that revenue source that he wants to tap into after this season. I think 42-0 at home in front of a half empty stadium is not how one goes about selling PSLs. I mean...PSL buyers are buying hope, and the only way to provide that is to offer a new promise, a new source of hope.

I think the torches and pitchforks really forced his hand. It no longer came down to a question of faith in Fisher. His customers told him loudly that THEY have no faith, and he had to put a new paint job on the team. This isn't what he planned to do, but the Rams cratered this year, and the fans demanded it.
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Blue and Gold1019December 13, 2016 06:07AM

  so, other than Harbaugh...who has the HC juice to electrify LA?

SunTzu_vs_Camus391December 13, 2016 06:18AM

  tell you what

zn407December 13, 2016 06:20AM

  same thing...a "quality" hire will electrify the city....

SunTzu_vs_Camus334December 13, 2016 06:27AM

  Re: same thing...a "quality" hire will electrify the city....

zn321December 13, 2016 07:48AM

  well, I think it matters cuz the LA PR/media/fans/blogs etc forced Stan's hand. imo

SunTzu_vs_Camus309December 13, 2016 08:06AM

  Re: well, I think it matters cuz the LA PR/media/fans/blogs etc forced Stan's hand. imo

zn306December 13, 2016 08:10AM

  we agree as I am a "purist" too...

SunTzu_vs_Camus349December 13, 2016 08:19AM

  Re: we agree as I am a "purist" too...

zn201December 13, 2016 08:23AM

  I don't think he "caved"

ArizonaRamFan281December 13, 2016 08:35AM

  Re: I don't think he "caved"

Zooey367December 13, 2016 08:52AM

  The PSL's will sell out fast in part because of ticket brokers

LesBaker322December 13, 2016 09:04AM

  All persuasive points, Z. But that's not incompatible with my speculation

ArizonaRamFan614December 13, 2016 09:07AM

  You may have been the closest to the facts AZ

LesBaker266December 13, 2016 09:14AM

  oops double post

Zooey285December 13, 2016 08:52AM

  Yep. Agree with that

Zooey273December 13, 2016 08:36AM

  Re: tell you what. Yep, Yep!

guinnessram316December 13, 2016 07:24AM

  Re: Stanford's David Shaw intrigues me.....Shaw/Gruden Combo?

oldschoolramfan418December 13, 2016 07:58AM

  Thank God !!!

Paydirt349December 13, 2016 06:22AM

  Re: Not buying it

BigGame81386December 13, 2016 06:23AM

  tend to agree

Blue and Gold325December 13, 2016 06:28AM

  Is it cuz there are not any other HC alternatives that excite you?

SunTzu_vs_Camus426December 13, 2016 06:29AM

  I would pass on Gruden and Cowher

BigGame81330December 13, 2016 06:32AM

  Re: yep

Speed_Kills389December 13, 2016 06:33AM

  Depends on QB situation

BigGame81315December 13, 2016 06:35AM

  He has some history in CHI

LesBaker335December 13, 2016 06:36AM

  Re: He has some history in CHI

BigGame81326December 13, 2016 06:41AM

  Re: He has some history in CHI

Ohiorams351December 13, 2016 07:01AM

  Could be Arizona, Speed.

ArizonaRamFan288December 13, 2016 09:13AM

  He's had health issues too

LesBaker374December 13, 2016 09:18AM

  Yeah, I don't think you go out like Harbaugh without wanting another shot

ArizonaRamFan272December 13, 2016 08:51AM

  The way I see it...

max484December 13, 2016 07:06AM

  Re: The way I see it...

bigjimram21430December 13, 2016 07:21AM

  Re: agreed nm

Speed_Kills280December 13, 2016 07:29AM

  Re: The way I see it...

21Dog332December 13, 2016 08:31AM

  I`ve been saying this for months..Kroenke won`t be able to buy Harbaugh..

PaulButcher59445December 13, 2016 07:14AM

  Never say never. It's way too early to talk in absolutes..

max305December 13, 2016 07:23AM

  He won`t be the Rams next head coach so what does that tell us?

PaulButcher59349December 13, 2016 07:46AM

  The only part about the jim harbough rumor that's true

IowaRam392December 13, 2016 08:33AM