September 17, 2016 05:19PM
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9er8er
I'm not making predictions. I preferred Wentz to Goff but wouldn't have picked him #1 overall or traded the picks the Eagles did to get him. Which means, if he goes on to be great, I would have missed on that too.

I'm talking about the how much responsibility you can reasonably place on coaches vs. the player in how quickly and effectively they pick up offenses. If Goff had been a late round pick, nobody would be accusing the coaching of sabotaging his ability to pick up the offense and get on the field at this point. Indeed, we saw no such narratives about the coaches and Mannion last season, did we? The only reason we see it now is because some people are either unwilling or unable to apply the same accountability to Goff as they do to other QB's, such as Mannion, for their progress.

I want and need Goff to be great just as much as anybody else here. And I happen to think he has some great qualities that could get him there. But I'm not going to blame everybody and everything else if he doesn't figure out an NFL offense.
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and there is no doubt Wentz has proven to be more pro-ready than Goff. It's not debatable. I was a Wentz person, like you, would not have given upa king's ransom for him or Goff.

Right now, I don't know if Goff not being ready week 1 is on the player or coaches. But i am willing to see what happens in the next few weeks. It's just too early and there is not enough data to go on. That's me.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  How can Goff be #2 this week?

max1168September 16, 2016 09:30AM

  Re: How can Goff be #2 this week?

LARams17510September 16, 2016 09:33AM

  because there was a conscious choice made

zn673September 16, 2016 09:40AM

  I think you're probably right...

JamesJM471September 16, 2016 09:51AM

  Re: AGREE

VANRAM436September 17, 2016 02:38PM

  Re: AGREE

zn475September 17, 2016 04:12PM

  Re: AGREE

VANRAM429September 17, 2016 05:29PM

  Re: AGREE

zn449September 17, 2016 07:15PM

  Re: because there was a conscious choice made

max372September 16, 2016 10:06AM

  Wouldn't they have already announced that?

JamesJM394September 16, 2016 10:09AM

  Fisher said he would announce it over the weekend

max446September 16, 2016 10:17AM

  Thanks... and odd, a little odd anyway...

JamesJM593September 16, 2016 10:35AM

  Re: Thanks... and odd, a little odd anyway...

zn443September 16, 2016 12:42PM

  LOL

JamesJM402September 16, 2016 02:56PM

  Re: LOL

zn380September 16, 2016 03:30PM

  Re: Wouldn't they have already announced that?

VANRAM457September 17, 2016 02:40PM

  Re: because there was a conscious choice made

21Dog406September 16, 2016 02:18PM

  ????

Suh-weet!389September 16, 2016 02:32PM

  Re: How can Goff be #2 this week?

bigjimram21492September 16, 2016 09:45AM

  Goff is the #2 this week

BigGame81470September 16, 2016 11:30AM

  There ya go. As I predicted. And I expect him to play.

max475September 16, 2016 11:52AM

  Tweet

CROMWELL21430September 16, 2016 11:53AM

  He is doing what he said at least

Hazlet Hacksaw549September 16, 2016 12:47PM

  max

wv ram487September 16, 2016 11:56AM

  True. I've seen enough of Fisher...

max470September 16, 2016 12:22PM

  enough of Fisher...

wv ram446September 16, 2016 12:54PM

  Just a game

Hazlet Hacksaw420September 16, 2016 01:10PM

  Hazlet Hacksaw

wv ram417September 17, 2016 05:07AM

  Well said WV...

Guard317September 17, 2016 06:28AM

  Re: Well said WV...

zn803September 17, 2016 06:39AM

  vast wasteland...

wv ram484September 17, 2016 10:31AM

  "....an execution".....oh, if we were lucky!

SunTzu_vs_Camus434September 17, 2016 02:37PM

  Post of the Year, wv!

SunTzu_vs_Camus559September 17, 2016 02:31PM

  We come here to share the pain and the glory

Hazlet Hacksaw386September 17, 2016 03:20PM

  Completely plausible

LesBaker487September 16, 2016 01:05PM

  Its not a big deal

Hazlet Hacksaw417September 16, 2016 01:13PM

  If the game is in hand for either team and the Rams are able to protect

LesBaker378September 16, 2016 01:44PM

  It makes sense...

max279September 16, 2016 03:11PM

  Why "fast track" him if that not the best method?

LesBaker435September 16, 2016 04:16PM

  None of that is plausible

9er8er383September 17, 2016 01:53PM

  He is, it's been announced on NFL.com

alyoshamucci421September 16, 2016 01:07PM

  Re: He is, it's been announced on NFL.com

Anonymous User469September 16, 2016 04:23PM

  Because it's not an actual football plan

9er8er393September 17, 2016 10:38AM

  Pure conjecture on your part, doesn't mean its not true...

max443September 17, 2016 11:13AM

  actual football plan

wv ram427September 17, 2016 11:19AM

  That's what Mike Silver has said...

max422September 17, 2016 12:58PM

  Silver is both a Fisher and Goff shill

9er8er398September 17, 2016 01:05PM

  not sure about Fisher, but Silver..........

21Dog424September 17, 2016 01:09PM

  Right

9er8er428September 17, 2016 01:34PM

  speculation

wv ram404September 17, 2016 02:04PM

  Re: speculation

zn401September 17, 2016 02:19PM

  That rock is a boulder

9er8er418September 17, 2016 02:58PM

  Re: Right

max414September 17, 2016 02:35PM

  Re: Right

9er8er416September 17, 2016 02:49PM

  Answer one question...

max393September 17, 2016 02:54PM

  I've answered that question for you before

9er8er430September 17, 2016 03:21PM

  Re: I've answered that question for you before

max399September 17, 2016 03:51PM

  What must make perfect sense to you

9er8er388September 17, 2016 03:58PM

  Re: What must make perfect sense to you

max577September 17, 2016 04:07PM

  What's that have to do with it?

9er8er380September 17, 2016 04:22PM

  Re: What must make perfect sense to you max...........

Anonymous User573September 17, 2016 04:48PM

  Irrelevant nonsense

9er8er425September 17, 2016 05:21PM

  Re: Irrelevant nonsense

bigjimram21398September 17, 2016 07:41PM

  Re: What must make perfect sense to you max...........

Shaky579September 17, 2016 11:51PM

  Re: What must make perfect sense to you

Blue and Gold478September 17, 2016 04:10PM

  I'm not talking about the future

9er8er471September 17, 2016 05:03PM

  I get it

Blue and Gold304September 17, 2016 05:19PM

  Re: I'm not talking about the future 9er8er

Anonymous User378September 17, 2016 05:36PM

  Re: I'm not talking about the future 9er8er

zn395September 17, 2016 07:07PM

  Re: I'm not talking about the future 9er8er

Anonymous User573September 17, 2016 07:34PM

  Re: I'm not talking about the future 9er8er

zn262September 18, 2016 05:22AM

  Re: I'm not talking about the future

bigjimram21378September 17, 2016 07:51PM

  Re: What must make perfect sense to you

bigjimram21388September 17, 2016 07:46PM

  That's a lot of big talk with nothing to back it up with

LesBaker389September 17, 2016 04:57PM

  Don't know what you're talking about

9er8er435September 17, 2016 05:40PM

  Bring on game 2

wv ram403September 18, 2016 02:35AM

  Speculation running amuck...

max535September 18, 2016 04:00AM

  Re: Speculation running amuck...

Anonymous User502September 18, 2016 04:43AM

  Keenumonics...

wv ram368September 18, 2016 04:59AM

  flunking rams...

wv ram382September 18, 2016 04:54AM

  Re: flunking rams...

max401September 18, 2016 06:04AM