Neither of those games have ever turned up. A partial of the 1985 Cardinals game came from the CBS archives. One or two of the reels for that game were missing or damaged. I got that information from a sportswriter at FOX who got some games from me for a book he was writing. He helped me out with some Rams games from the 1990s that were missing -- yes, quite a few games even from that decade were either missing or were available only in poor quality.
