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Re: I agree with this completely, 43...great post!!

July 14, 2019 08:20AM
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If it was about money I would agree with you. But it doesn't look like that's the case. The players get around 47% of all league revenue so if an 18 game season generated an additional $2.5B then the players would get $1.175B of that. It seems that if it was a question of money that more than a billion dollars a year every year would do it.

Here's what the real deal is:

"The players’ union estimates a longer season would result in a windfall of new money for the league — up to $2.5 billion per year, according to the Journal, of which players would receive half — but would hurt players’ longevity. That’s crucial, according to NFLPA estimates, because the average NFL career is 3.4 years but would drop to 2.8 years with two more games each season. The minimum required service time for players to receive a pension and long-term health benefits is three years." [www.washingtonpost.com]

Increasing the rosters to 60 players would add 224 more dues paying members for the NFLPA. From their POV this would largely offset that estimated career longevity reduction from 3.4 to 2.8 years, an estimate that seems flawed to me, btw.

Consider this. The trendline in pro sports seems to be to increase the number of games and to escalate player salaries as TV revenue skyrockets.

NFL season was once 12 games.

Then 14...

Then 16...

The 18 game season is coming, like it or not. Player health or not. It’s just a matter of time. All market forces are pushing in that direction.

You miss his point 43.

Adding more players who will then on average not be eligible for benefits does not help the players.

It's funny, when you try and offer a players perspective, what you really do is offer a management view of what the players perspective should be according to management.

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You’re missing my larger point, zn.

All market forces are pushing in the direction of an 18 game season.

Whether we like it or not, it’s coming. To deny it, no matter how altruistic the arguments, is like trying to turn back the tides.

And when your entity is made up of a collaboration between management and the players...which it is...then "market forces" is not the only, sole, or absolute determination of things.

"Market forces" (a euphemism for management just mindlessly pursuing revenue at the cost of other things) is just the management mantra.

The reality is, there's no league without a CBA and there's no CBA without players signing off on it.

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  Report: Owners pitch 18-game season that would limit players to 16 games

RamBill793July 12, 2019 12:31PM

  Can't really wrap my brain around that...

JamesJM268July 12, 2019 01:01PM

  Re: Report: Owners pitch 18-game season that would limit players to 16 games

cool_hand_luke289July 12, 2019 01:54PM

  Re figure it out

Speed_Kills239July 12, 2019 02:01PM

  Can you pick any 2 games to rest particular starters?

promomasterj247July 12, 2019 02:19PM

  Re: Can you pick any 2 games to rest particular starters?

cool_hand_luke202July 12, 2019 03:10PM

  kicker/punter/long snapper

headslapper213July 13, 2019 03:58PM

  don't like it

zn249July 12, 2019 02:28PM

  Re: Report: Owners pitch 18-game season that would limit players to 16 games

Ramboni213July 12, 2019 02:46PM

  Re: Report: Owners pitch 18-game season that would limit players to 16 games

Classicalwit189July 12, 2019 03:05PM

  Re: Report: Owners pitch 18-game season that would limit players to 16 games

cool_hand_luke195July 12, 2019 03:12PM

  maybe with a handful of exemptions?

AlbaNY_Ram226July 12, 2019 04:52PM

  It's beginning to sound...

JamesJM230July 12, 2019 04:54PM

  me? no

zn452July 12, 2019 05:18PM

  Re: me? no........... Yup

Anonymous User249July 12, 2019 05:35PM

  Re: me? no

AlbaNY_Ram238July 13, 2019 12:57AM

  your blunt opinion....

21Dog203July 13, 2019 09:10AM

  8-game: LOVE IT--->starting QB sits 2 games--depth

Steve286July 13, 2019 01:26AM

  Re: 8-game: LOVE IT--->starting QB sits 2 games--depth

zn233July 13, 2019 04:48AM

  Re: 8-game: LOVE IT--->starting QB sits 2 games--depth

Steve295July 13, 2019 08:58AM

  A couple of things come to mind: first, there are not enough decent QBs

RockRam299July 13, 2019 04:59AM

  Re: A couple of things come to mind: first, there are not enough decent QBs

AlbaNY_Ram263July 13, 2019 05:23AM

  This isn’t complicated, so why overthink it?

Rams43324July 13, 2019 05:51AM

  Re: This isn’t complicated, so why overthink it?

AlbaNY_Ram354July 13, 2019 07:20AM

  Re: This isn’t complicated, so why overthink it?

Rams43228July 13, 2019 03:27PM

  Re: This isn’t complicated, so why overthink it?

AlbaNY_Ram228July 13, 2019 06:35PM

  Re: This isn’t complicated, so why overthink it?

zn237July 13, 2019 06:47PM

  Re: This isn’t complicated, so why overthink it?

Rams43302July 13, 2019 08:10PM

  I agree with this completely, 43...great post!!

SunTzu_vs_Camus228July 14, 2019 02:41AM

  Re: I agree with this completely, 43...great post!!

AlbaNY_Ram320July 14, 2019 06:55AM

  Re: I agree with this completely, 43...great post!!

Rams43374July 14, 2019 07:24AM

  Re: I agree with this completely, 43...great post!!

zn251July 14, 2019 07:57AM

  Re: I agree with this completely, 43...great post!!

Rams43221July 14, 2019 08:08AM

  Re: I agree with this completely, 43...great post!!

zn221July 14, 2019 08:20AM

  Re: I agree with this completely, 43...great post!!

Rams43224July 14, 2019 08:31AM

  Re: I agree with this completely, 43...great post!!

zn216July 14, 2019 03:55PM

  Re: I agree with this completely, 43...great post!!

AlbaNY_Ram234July 14, 2019 08:59AM

  I like it

stlramz231July 13, 2019 01:28PM

  That 'record' thing..

JamesJM262July 13, 2019 01:49PM

  Players might go for a 18 week schedule with 16 games played

ramzilla247July 13, 2019 03:46PM

  Re: Players might go for a 18 week schedule with 16 games played

zn217July 13, 2019 04:39PM

  Mark Murphy supports 17 games, a regular season compromise.

Rams43303July 14, 2019 07:59AM

  I like the 17 game idea

Rampage2K-260July 14, 2019 09:28AM

  Re: Report: Owners pitch 18-game season that would limit players to 16 games

zn384July 14, 2019 01:44PM

  I want 17 games and one additional bye week

PeoriaRa294July 15, 2019 08:52AM

  Re: I want 17 games and one additional bye week

Rampage2K-234July 15, 2019 09:25AM

  Re: Report: Owners pitch 18-game season that would limit players to 16 games

zn229July 15, 2019 06:12PM