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July 12, 2018 10:45AM
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from Ranking the NFL's Most Unblockable Pass-Rushers

Doug Farrar

[bleacherreport.com]

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1. Aaron Donald, DL, Los Angeles Rams

Aaron Donald has made the Pro Bowl in each of his four seasons and has been named a first-team All-Pro for the past three. The only question is: What were the All-Pro voters thinking in 2014? Because Donald has been dominant since the day he hit the field in his rookie season, and he seems to get better every year.

Lost to a point amid the team's coaching (and subsequent winning) issues under Jeff Fisher, Donald found his day in the sun in 2017. The Los Angeles Rams won the NFC West, and new defensive coordinator Wade Phillips maximized Donald with his creative blitz packages and multiple fronts.

The addition of defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh in free agency should make the 27-year-old even more unblockable than last season, when he amassed a league-leading 91 total pressures, per Sam Monson of Pro Football Focus—an astonishing feat for an interior defender.

The NFL's version of a needle in a haystack? Try to find something Donald doesn't do at a plus level.

You want power? Watch him come low off the snap and demolish a guard. You want quickness? Donald can blow past blocks as quickly as you see edge-rushers do it—his burst off the ball requires multiple replays to believe. You want hand technique? Donald can get past enemy blockers with rip and swim moves as well as anyone.

And against double-teams, the 6'1", 280-pound Donald presents a combination of balance and strength that allows him to not only slice through blockers but also embarrass them on his way to the quarterback. It's why he's able to create pressure in any situation, in any defensive front, from any gap.

Not only is he the best defensive player in the league and the most unblockable, but Donald can also make a claim that no one else matches his consistent effectiveness from down to down.


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from: Agent's Take [www.cbssports.com]

Joel Corry

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Resetting the non-QB market

It's been a foregone conclusion that Rams interior defensive lineman Aaron Donald and Raiders edge rusher Khalil Mack, who are scheduled to make $6.892 million and $13.846 million respectively this year on their fifth-year options, would eventually become charter members of the $20 million-per-year non-quarterback club. Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie's timetable for a Mack extension has been the 2018 offseason ever since locking up quarterback Derek Carr long-term last summer. Les Snead, McKenzie's counterpart with the Rams, has called a new deal for Donald a major priority.

The Raiders and Rams having sticker shock is the likely impediment with deals for the 2014 first-round picks. A modest increase over the current non-quarterback standard, which is Broncos linebacker Von Miller at $19,083,333 per year and $70 million in overall guarantees, may not be enough to end the stalemates. The substantial growth in quarterback salaries over the last year with the non-quarterback market remaining stagnant is a stumbling block. It is my understanding that restoring the traditional financial relationship between the highest-paid quarterback and non-quarterback which has existed under the current CBA is an important consideration to the players' representatives. This would mean a contract averaging over $23 million per year with $85 million in guarantees where $65 million to $70 million is fully guaranteed at signing is needed in order to recreate the balance. Not surprisingly, there is reluctance to dramatically reset the non-quarterback market.

Agents take....yes they do.

Of course an agent would write that, it's an "agents take" for gods sake.

The reason why QB money has gone up is because IT is the most important position in all of sports. Period.

You simply can't compare what a Tom Brady does for a team as opposed to what a Aarron Donald does for your team. QB's get the big paycheck because they are worth it.

I love AD and want him in horns for life, but if they pay him over $23 M per year with three years left of control they are nuts IMO.


Where is the "GM's Take" ?argue

I told you we would know when we hear from someone with AD's interest in mind.

All the stuff we've heard previously about how the offer was "competitive" and "among the best ever", etc., was the GM's take.

To your larger point, I agree with you that the QB position is the most important in all of sports. However, the importance of the position is already reflected in the fact that QBs get paid roughly 40% - 50% more than the next highest position group.

It shouldn't be the only position though where top salaries increase since the salary cap is consistently increasing due to inflation. The rest of the players should rightfully have a problem if the gap between QB salaries and salaries of other positions is dramatically increasing.

All true and yes all this stuff about how important qbs are is completely beside the point. First, there is no one who does not know that. Second, my mantra: QB money in 2018 is 28 M on 2nd contracts...that's more than 23 M, according to my calculations. cool smiley

And yes, this is what it's like to get a take that ISN'T from the GM's perspective. That's exactly what I thought of when I saw that piece.

If the Rams aren't offering something north of 20 M then they are just holding this thing up.

But then no one outside of the Rams and Donald's group really knows the numbers yet.

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This is the second time we've heard that sticker shock could be the reason for the holdups on the Rams and Raiders parts.

That wouldn't be surprising to me.

The other thing, that I think could mucky this up or is muckying this up is the NFLPA in the ears of Donald's and Mack's agents. You have two ultra elite talents which unfortunately is a prime opportunity to reset the market. A reset on the market helps all players.

I'm wondering how much pressure there is on the agents from the NFLPA to convince their clients to get absolute top dollar. IOW, lots of pressure to not settle without a drag down, knock out fight.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  2 pieces on Donald

zn906July 12, 2018 03:57AM

  plus some tweets

zn300July 12, 2018 04:45AM

  Re: DL has elite ranking in game and we lost

merlin190July 12, 2018 07:00AM

  false dichotomy

zn127July 12, 2018 08:13AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Steve70July 13, 2018 05:06AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn66July 13, 2018 05:18AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Rampage2K-73July 13, 2018 09:48AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn70July 13, 2018 10:24AM

  Re: false dichotomy

dzrams58July 13, 2018 08:37AM

  more tweets

zn120July 12, 2018 07:51PM

  and even more stuff

zn66July 16, 2018 05:37PM

  and still even more stuff

zn39July 20, 2018 07:29PM

  I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

jemach128July 12, 2018 04:56AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

zn102July 12, 2018 05:15AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

LMU9393July 12, 2018 05:40AM

  I Agree on guaranteed money...

jemach39July 13, 2018 03:45AM

  Re: IF AD is not worth the money.........

oldschoolramfan41July 14, 2018 05:48AM

  i posted well in advance of that poll...

jemach40July 13, 2018 03:47AM

  Re

zn45July 13, 2018 04:06AM

  I tend to be an early adopter...

jemach42July 16, 2018 01:19PM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

Ramsdude94July 12, 2018 06:31AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

dzrams61July 12, 2018 10:08AM

  So you compare this team to last years team?

jemach38July 13, 2018 03:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-145July 12, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams103July 12, 2018 10:17AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

zn93July 12, 2018 10:34AM

  Re: We don't know the numbers but...

dzrams88July 12, 2018 10:45AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-69July 12, 2018 10:39AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams53July 12, 2018 11:42AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-71July 12, 2018 12:44PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams48July 12, 2018 01:23PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-42July 12, 2018 01:39PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram89July 12, 2018 10:35AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-64July 12, 2018 10:44AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams75July 12, 2018 11:46AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-45July 12, 2018 12:54PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams66July 12, 2018 01:06PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-46July 12, 2018 01:47PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn50July 12, 2018 02:13PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-46July 12, 2018 02:40PM

  no that's not the case

zn49July 12, 2018 02:52PM

  kind of like Watkins imo

Atlantic Ram46July 12, 2018 03:07PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams44July 12, 2018 05:09PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn48July 12, 2018 05:22PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram64July 12, 2018 07:57PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams50July 12, 2018 08:02PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram40July 12, 2018 10:17PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn39July 13, 2018 08:08AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram42July 13, 2018 08:30AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams45July 13, 2018 08:48AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram65July 13, 2018 09:24AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Ramsdude79July 13, 2018 02:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn82July 13, 2018 04:26AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams46July 12, 2018 05:27PM

  I would be surprised if less than $23M

Atlantic Ram68July 12, 2018 03:11PM

  +1 (NM)

zn38July 13, 2018 09:05AM

  Agree to a point.

RockRam71July 14, 2018 05:05AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

zn56July 14, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

VANRAM78July 16, 2018 01:27AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

Rams4342July 16, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams42July 16, 2018 07:31AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4341July 16, 2018 07:49AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams42July 16, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4340July 16, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Ramsdude38July 16, 2018 10:04AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams35July 16, 2018 11:16AM

  4th reason

AlbaNY_Ram33July 17, 2018 05:55AM

  but at tag prices

zn43July 16, 2018 10:27AM

  Re: but at tag prices

Ken38July 16, 2018 12:12PM

  Not play under the tag? Of course he will.

RockRam41July 17, 2018 02:49AM

  nope

zn38July 17, 2018 04:29AM

  He IS signed! That's the point.

RockRam68July 17, 2018 02:40AM

  you're not following the conversation

zn62July 17, 2018 04:31AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

Rams4368July 17, 2018 05:43AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

Ken47July 17, 2018 08:41AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

AlbaNY_Ram50July 17, 2018 03:15PM

  that's what they were going to do with Tru

zn59July 17, 2018 05:57PM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

dzrams38July 17, 2018 09:20AM

  as per our entire discussion of the trade scenario

zn47July 17, 2018 09:29AM

  Re: as per our entire discussion of the trade scenario

Ramsdude59July 17, 2018 12:58PM

  So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

jemach72July 16, 2018 01:29PM

  Re: So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

zn59July 16, 2018 04:31PM

  At some time...this has to wear on a player psychologically...

jemach62July 17, 2018 09:07AM

  Re: At some time...this has to wear on a player psychologically...

Ramsdude65July 17, 2018 12:34PM

  I would say I feel better...

jemach41July 18, 2018 03:44AM

  Re: +++1

dzrams54July 18, 2018 06:44AM

  Re: +++1

Rams4359July 18, 2018 07:18AM

  Take the QBs out of it...

max53July 18, 2018 03:58AM