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false dichotomy

July 12, 2018 08:13AM
Is there some kind of logic out there that claims if you have an elite non-qb you can't pay him UNLESS he is the sole cause of winning? According to that way of thinking, because the Rams lost some playoff games when they had Merlin Olsen, Deacon Jones, or Jack Youngblood, they should have just dumped those players. Or tried to underpay them, which amounts to the same thing.

And on the other hand, deprive any top qb of a supporting cast and how well does he do? QB doesnt do it alone either.

You pay your best players and build around them.

Oh and elite DTs have in fact been key parts of superbowl teams. Joe Greene, Randy White, Warren Sapp, Bob Lilly...but they're just aren't that many elite DTs. Actually in NFL history there are more top qbs than elite DTs.


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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2018 08:22AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  2 pieces on Donald

zn861July 12, 2018 03:57AM

  plus some tweets

zn282July 12, 2018 04:45AM

  Re: DL has elite ranking in game and we lost

merlin163July 12, 2018 07:00AM

  false dichotomy

zn117July 12, 2018 08:13AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Steve59July 13, 2018 05:06AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn58July 13, 2018 05:18AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Rampage2K-62July 13, 2018 09:48AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn53July 13, 2018 10:24AM

  Re: false dichotomy

dzrams47July 13, 2018 08:37AM

  more tweets

zn102July 12, 2018 07:51PM

  and even more stuff

zn48July 16, 2018 05:37PM

  and still even more stuff

zn31July 20, 2018 07:29PM

  I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

jemach115July 12, 2018 04:56AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

zn92July 12, 2018 05:15AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

LMU9383July 12, 2018 05:40AM

  I Agree on guaranteed money...

jemach32July 13, 2018 03:45AM

  Re: IF AD is not worth the money.........

oldschoolramfan35July 14, 2018 05:48AM

  i posted well in advance of that poll...

jemach34July 13, 2018 03:47AM

  Re

zn36July 13, 2018 04:06AM

  I tend to be an early adopter...

jemach31July 16, 2018 01:19PM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

Ramsdude75July 12, 2018 06:31AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

dzrams53July 12, 2018 10:08AM

  So you compare this team to last years team?

jemach29July 13, 2018 03:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-124July 12, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams87July 12, 2018 10:17AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

zn76July 12, 2018 10:34AM

  Re: We don't know the numbers but...

dzrams67July 12, 2018 10:45AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-51July 12, 2018 10:39AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams44July 12, 2018 11:42AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-54July 12, 2018 12:44PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams39July 12, 2018 01:23PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-35July 12, 2018 01:39PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram72July 12, 2018 10:35AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-50July 12, 2018 10:44AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams60July 12, 2018 11:46AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-37July 12, 2018 12:54PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams48July 12, 2018 01:06PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-39July 12, 2018 01:47PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn44July 12, 2018 02:13PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-37July 12, 2018 02:40PM

  no that's not the case

zn40July 12, 2018 02:52PM

  kind of like Watkins imo

Atlantic Ram38July 12, 2018 03:07PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams38July 12, 2018 05:09PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn38July 12, 2018 05:22PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram48July 12, 2018 07:57PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams42July 12, 2018 08:02PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram33July 12, 2018 10:17PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn30July 13, 2018 08:08AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram34July 13, 2018 08:30AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams35July 13, 2018 08:48AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram44July 13, 2018 09:24AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Ramsdude63July 13, 2018 02:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn64July 13, 2018 04:26AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams37July 12, 2018 05:27PM

  I would be surprised if less than $23M

Atlantic Ram50July 12, 2018 03:11PM

  +1 (NM)

zn28July 13, 2018 09:05AM

  Agree to a point.

RockRam63July 14, 2018 05:05AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

zn48July 14, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

VANRAM58July 16, 2018 01:27AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

Rams4334July 16, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams36July 16, 2018 07:31AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4331July 16, 2018 07:49AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams34July 16, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4333July 16, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Ramsdude28July 16, 2018 10:04AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams29July 16, 2018 11:16AM

  4th reason

AlbaNY_Ram26July 17, 2018 05:55AM

  but at tag prices

zn35July 16, 2018 10:27AM

  Re: but at tag prices

Ken29July 16, 2018 12:12PM

  Not play under the tag? Of course he will.

RockRam32July 17, 2018 02:49AM

  nope

zn31July 17, 2018 04:29AM

  He IS signed! That's the point.

RockRam54July 17, 2018 02:40AM

  you're not following the conversation

zn45July 17, 2018 04:31AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

Rams4353July 17, 2018 05:43AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

Ken34July 17, 2018 08:41AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

AlbaNY_Ram34July 17, 2018 03:15PM

  that's what they were going to do with Tru

zn43July 17, 2018 05:57PM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

dzrams29July 17, 2018 09:20AM

  as per our entire discussion of the trade scenario

zn39July 17, 2018 09:29AM

  Re: as per our entire discussion of the trade scenario

Ramsdude42July 17, 2018 12:58PM

  So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

jemach60July 16, 2018 01:29PM

  Re: So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

zn49July 16, 2018 04:31PM

  At some time...this has to wear on a player psychologically...

jemach47July 17, 2018 09:07AM

  Re: At some time...this has to wear on a player psychologically...

Ramsdude47July 17, 2018 12:34PM

  I would say I feel better...

jemach33July 18, 2018 03:44AM

  Re: +++1

dzrams35July 18, 2018 06:44AM

  Re: +++1

Rams4342July 18, 2018 07:18AM

  Take the QBs out of it...

max42July 18, 2018 03:58AM