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false dichotomy

July 12, 2018 08:13AM
Is there some kind of logic out there that claims if you have an elite non-qb you can't pay him UNLESS he is the sole cause of winning? According to that way of thinking, because the Rams lost some playoff games when they had Merlin Olsen, Deacon Jones, or Jack Youngblood, they should have just dumped those players. Or tried to underpay them, which amounts to the same thing.

And on the other hand, deprive any top qb of a supporting cast and how well does he do? QB doesnt do it alone either.

You pay your best players and build around them.

Oh and elite DTs have in fact been key parts of superbowl teams. Joe Greene, Randy White, Warren Sapp, Bob Lilly...but they're just aren't that many elite DTs. Actually in NFL history there are more top qbs than elite DTs.


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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2018 08:22AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  2 pieces on Donald

zn901July 12, 2018 03:57AM

  plus some tweets

zn295July 12, 2018 04:45AM

  Re: DL has elite ranking in game and we lost

merlin186July 12, 2018 07:00AM

  false dichotomy

zn125July 12, 2018 08:13AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Steve70July 13, 2018 05:06AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn66July 13, 2018 05:18AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Rampage2K-71July 13, 2018 09:48AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn69July 13, 2018 10:24AM

  Re: false dichotomy

dzrams58July 13, 2018 08:37AM

  more tweets

zn114July 12, 2018 07:51PM

  and even more stuff

zn66July 16, 2018 05:37PM

  and still even more stuff

zn38July 20, 2018 07:29PM

  I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

jemach126July 12, 2018 04:56AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

zn102July 12, 2018 05:15AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

LMU9393July 12, 2018 05:40AM

  I Agree on guaranteed money...

jemach39July 13, 2018 03:45AM

  Re: IF AD is not worth the money.........

oldschoolramfan41July 14, 2018 05:48AM

  i posted well in advance of that poll...

jemach40July 13, 2018 03:47AM

  Re

zn44July 13, 2018 04:06AM

  I tend to be an early adopter...

jemach42July 16, 2018 01:19PM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

Ramsdude90July 12, 2018 06:31AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

dzrams61July 12, 2018 10:08AM

  So you compare this team to last years team?

jemach38July 13, 2018 03:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-142July 12, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams100July 12, 2018 10:17AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

zn90July 12, 2018 10:34AM

  Re: We don't know the numbers but...

dzrams85July 12, 2018 10:45AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-68July 12, 2018 10:39AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams53July 12, 2018 11:42AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-68July 12, 2018 12:44PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams48July 12, 2018 01:23PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-42July 12, 2018 01:39PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram85July 12, 2018 10:35AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-64July 12, 2018 10:44AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams72July 12, 2018 11:46AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-45July 12, 2018 12:54PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams62July 12, 2018 01:06PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-46July 12, 2018 01:47PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn50July 12, 2018 02:13PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-46July 12, 2018 02:40PM

  no that's not the case

zn49July 12, 2018 02:52PM

  kind of like Watkins imo

Atlantic Ram45July 12, 2018 03:07PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams43July 12, 2018 05:09PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn47July 12, 2018 05:22PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram61July 12, 2018 07:57PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams49July 12, 2018 08:02PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram40July 12, 2018 10:17PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn39July 13, 2018 08:08AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram42July 13, 2018 08:30AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams45July 13, 2018 08:48AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram59July 13, 2018 09:24AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Ramsdude75July 13, 2018 02:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn80July 13, 2018 04:26AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams46July 12, 2018 05:27PM

  I would be surprised if less than $23M

Atlantic Ram68July 12, 2018 03:11PM

  +1 (NM)

zn38July 13, 2018 09:05AM

  Agree to a point.

RockRam71July 14, 2018 05:05AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

zn56July 14, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

VANRAM73July 16, 2018 01:27AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

Rams4342July 16, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams42July 16, 2018 07:31AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4341July 16, 2018 07:49AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams41July 16, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4339July 16, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Ramsdude38July 16, 2018 10:04AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams34July 16, 2018 11:16AM

  4th reason

AlbaNY_Ram33July 17, 2018 05:55AM

  but at tag prices

zn41July 16, 2018 10:27AM

  Re: but at tag prices

Ken37July 16, 2018 12:12PM

  Not play under the tag? Of course he will.

RockRam40July 17, 2018 02:49AM

  nope

zn38July 17, 2018 04:29AM

  He IS signed! That's the point.

RockRam66July 17, 2018 02:40AM

  you're not following the conversation

zn60July 17, 2018 04:31AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

Rams4366July 17, 2018 05:43AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

Ken45July 17, 2018 08:41AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

AlbaNY_Ram47July 17, 2018 03:15PM

  that's what they were going to do with Tru

zn56July 17, 2018 05:57PM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

dzrams38July 17, 2018 09:20AM

  as per our entire discussion of the trade scenario

zn45July 17, 2018 09:29AM

  Re: as per our entire discussion of the trade scenario

Ramsdude56July 17, 2018 12:58PM

  So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

jemach72July 16, 2018 01:29PM

  Re: So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

zn59July 16, 2018 04:31PM

  At some time...this has to wear on a player psychologically...

jemach60July 17, 2018 09:07AM

  Re: At some time...this has to wear on a player psychologically...

Ramsdude63July 17, 2018 12:34PM

  I would say I feel better...

jemach41July 18, 2018 03:44AM

  Re: +++1

dzrams50July 18, 2018 06:44AM

  Re: +++1

Rams4357July 18, 2018 07:18AM

  Take the QBs out of it...

max53July 18, 2018 03:58AM