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false dichotomy

July 12, 2018 08:13AM
Is there some kind of logic out there that claims if you have an elite non-qb you can't pay him UNLESS he is the sole cause of winning? According to that way of thinking, because the Rams lost some playoff games when they had Merlin Olsen, Deacon Jones, or Jack Youngblood, they should have just dumped those players. Or tried to underpay them, which amounts to the same thing.

And on the other hand, deprive any top qb of a supporting cast and how well does he do? QB doesnt do it alone either.

You pay your best players and build around them.

Oh and elite DTs have in fact been key parts of superbowl teams. Joe Greene, Randy White, Warren Sapp, Bob Lilly...but they're just aren't that many elite DTs. Actually in NFL history there are more top qbs than elite DTs.


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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2018 08:22AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  2 pieces on Donald

zn795July 12, 2018 03:57AM

  plus some tweets

zn260July 12, 2018 04:45AM

  Re: DL has elite ranking in game and we lost

merlin141July 12, 2018 07:00AM

  false dichotomy

zn99July 12, 2018 08:13AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Steve43July 13, 2018 05:06AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn40July 13, 2018 05:18AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Rampage2K-47July 13, 2018 09:48AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn40July 13, 2018 10:24AM

  Re: false dichotomy

dzrams32July 13, 2018 08:37AM

  more tweets

zn73July 12, 2018 07:51PM

  and even more stuff

zn35July 16, 2018 05:37PM

  and still even more stuff

zn16July 20, 2018 07:29PM

  I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

jemach96July 12, 2018 04:56AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

zn79July 12, 2018 05:15AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

LMU9367July 12, 2018 05:40AM

  I Agree on guaranteed money...

jemach25July 13, 2018 03:45AM

  Re: IF AD is not worth the money.........

oldschoolramfan29July 14, 2018 05:48AM

  i posted well in advance of that poll...

jemach25July 13, 2018 03:47AM

  Re

zn28July 13, 2018 04:06AM

  I tend to be an early adopter...

jemach22July 16, 2018 01:19PM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

Ramsdude53July 12, 2018 06:31AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

dzrams36July 12, 2018 10:08AM

  So you compare this team to last years team?

jemach22July 13, 2018 03:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-97July 12, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams63July 12, 2018 10:17AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

zn51July 12, 2018 10:34AM

  Re: We don't know the numbers but...

dzrams38July 12, 2018 10:45AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-35July 12, 2018 10:39AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams34July 12, 2018 11:42AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-33July 12, 2018 12:44PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams29July 12, 2018 01:23PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-26July 12, 2018 01:39PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram47July 12, 2018 10:35AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-36July 12, 2018 10:44AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams38July 12, 2018 11:46AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-29July 12, 2018 12:54PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams30July 12, 2018 01:06PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-31July 12, 2018 01:47PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn37July 12, 2018 02:13PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-30July 12, 2018 02:40PM

  no that's not the case

zn30July 12, 2018 02:52PM

  kind of like Watkins imo

Atlantic Ram30July 12, 2018 03:07PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams29July 12, 2018 05:09PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn30July 12, 2018 05:22PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram30July 12, 2018 07:57PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams30July 12, 2018 08:02PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram25July 12, 2018 10:17PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn23July 13, 2018 08:08AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram25July 13, 2018 08:30AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams27July 13, 2018 08:48AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram27July 13, 2018 09:24AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Ramsdude35July 13, 2018 02:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn40July 13, 2018 04:26AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Speedball8934July 13, 2018 09:11AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams28July 12, 2018 05:27PM

  I would be surprised if less than $23M

Atlantic Ram40July 12, 2018 03:11PM

  +1 (NM)

zn19July 13, 2018 09:05AM

  Agree to a point.

RockRam46July 14, 2018 05:05AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

zn39July 14, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

VANRAM33July 16, 2018 01:27AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

Rams4326July 16, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams26July 16, 2018 07:31AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4324July 16, 2018 07:49AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams25July 16, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4324July 16, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Ramsdude19July 16, 2018 10:04AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams18July 16, 2018 11:16AM

  4th reason

AlbaNY_Ram19July 17, 2018 05:55AM

  but at tag prices

zn25July 16, 2018 10:27AM

  Re: but at tag prices

Ken20July 16, 2018 12:12PM

  Not play under the tag? Of course he will.

RockRam23July 17, 2018 02:49AM

  nope

zn23July 17, 2018 04:29AM

  He IS signed! That's the point.

RockRam33July 17, 2018 02:40AM

  you're not following the conversation

zn31July 17, 2018 04:31AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

Rams4336July 17, 2018 05:43AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

Ken21July 17, 2018 08:41AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

AlbaNY_Ram21July 17, 2018 03:15PM

  that's what they were going to do with Tru

zn20July 17, 2018 05:57PM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

dzrams21July 17, 2018 09:20AM

  as per our entire discussion of the trade scenario

zn30July 17, 2018 09:29AM

  Re: as per our entire discussion of the trade scenario

Ramsdude26July 17, 2018 12:58PM

  So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

jemach40July 16, 2018 01:29PM

  Re: So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

zn40July 16, 2018 04:31PM

  At some time...this has to wear on a player psychologically...

jemach32July 17, 2018 09:07AM

  Re: At some time...this has to wear on a player psychologically...

Ramsdude28July 17, 2018 12:34PM

  I would say I feel better...

jemach21July 18, 2018 03:44AM

  Re: +++1

dzrams19July 18, 2018 06:44AM

  Re: +++1

Rams4323July 18, 2018 07:18AM

  Take the QBs out of it...

max26July 18, 2018 03:58AM