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Re: Expectations.... maybe I misread everyone....

August 13, 2017 04:32AM
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JamesJM
As I mentioned I saw only the last 3/4 of the second half. That's all I can go by as of now... I'm definitely going to watch the entire game.

I saw improvement everywhere. That isn't to say I saw good football. I have nothing to say about the starting OL, apparently the 'low' spot of the game, I didn't see the starters, much. The team just looked different to me, noticeably different.. top to bottom. Everything was quicker paced. The "D" quite remarkable in this regard but the offense quicker as well.

I'm thinking, comparing, 1st preseason game last year vs this year. The Ram's are a different team.

Expectations... when I think of big improvement in W's for any given year I don't think in terms of sudden and eye-opening efficiency. I think that may be different than a lot of you who do see big improvement in that way... sudden, immediate. Most of the posts I'm reading after this game seem to be comparing what the Ram's did yesterday to that 'immediate' hope. As positive as I am about this year I didn't expect a whole lot of 'sudden'... yet the overall pace, mostly the coherence of play, approached that quick level of 'improvement' to me despite a lot of bad plays.

As I watched I truly believe I saw a cohesiveness quite extraordinarily different compared to last year. They looked more in sync. Sloppy, a lot, but almost without fail 'on the same page'.

I came to the board expecting to see others who noticed that as well.... but didn't. Hmmm. I was, in all honestly, somewhat surprised by that. The score tally took precedence? I don't know perhaps. The fumbles blinding anything else that might have occurred in the game? Maybe.

As the game ended I had been convinced that this is a very different team. Better? We'll see.... but while not 100% sure I'm 90% sure that the McVay/Wade era DID begin. Lot of ways to be bad, lot of ways to be good... whichever turns out to be the case change has come. - JamesJM

I think some people are expecting dominance, or flashy attack style passing.

Actually last year Cousins and Keenum threw short and medium about the same.

COUSINS 2016
% of total attempts thrown 10 yards & under: 69.7%
% of total attempts thrown 11-21 yards: 18.4%
% of total attempts thrown 21-30 yards: 7.5%
% of total attempts thrown 31+ yards: 4.4%

KEENUM 2016
% of total attempts thrown 10 yards & under: 70.8%
% of total attempts thrown 11-21 yards: 18%
% of total attempts thrown 21-30 yards: 5.6%
% of total attempts thrown 31+ yards: 5.6%

Interestingly, at first I thought Washington's higher YPA came from completing more in the 11-30 yard/medium & deep medium range. But that's not the case. Completion percentage in that range:

COUSINS, 52.7%
KEENUM, 61.8%

It actually comes from completing more in the short ranges, 10 yards and under:

COUSINS, 74.1%
KEENUM, 67%

Add in the fact that YPA includes RAC yards while this metric I did here doesn't. So a huge portion, it looks like, of Washington's high YPA last year comes from RAC yardage.

If you add in RAC, on the short ranges (10 and under), Rams averaged 4.8 yards per attempt while Washington averaged 6.2 yards per attempt.

The difference is Washington gets a higher YPA without fielding a more wide open, downfield attack necessarily. (Though granted last night was without Watkins.)

That's partly level of talent (ie. in Washington) and it's partly play design.

So the flashy downfield passing game maybe some people want? It's not McVay. What one should look for instead is greater efficiency and production per play, even though a lot of that will just be built around a short passing game.

I agree with your whole post, btw.

,.,.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/13/2017 04:37AM by zn.
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  Expectations.... maybe I misread everyone....

JamesJM1057August 13, 2017 03:09AM

  "I saw improvement everywhere"...

wv ram427August 13, 2017 04:14AM

  But not the right side of the OL

max399August 13, 2017 04:59AM

  i saw an nfl team

wv ram498August 13, 2017 05:48AM

  You got lucky....

JamesJM281August 13, 2017 05:52AM

  fisher bashing...

wv ram249August 13, 2017 09:50AM

  Amen, amen, amen!

RFL239August 13, 2017 10:24AM

  Re: Amen, amen, amen!

zn226August 13, 2017 10:32AM

  i want my fisher-basher button

wv ram215August 13, 2017 12:43PM

  Re: i want my fisher-basher button

zn209August 13, 2017 12:58PM

  3-eyed Ram

wv ram208August 13, 2017 01:16PM

  Re: 3-eyed Ram

zn216August 13, 2017 01:49PM

  Re: i want my fisher-basher button Attachments

VANRAM208August 13, 2017 02:55PM

  Re: Expectations.... maybe I misread everyone....

zn539August 13, 2017 04:32AM

  I thnk you are right Jimmy

GreatRamNTheSky328August 13, 2017 04:43AM

  Question...

jemach262August 13, 2017 05:26AM

  Re: Question...

zn243August 13, 2017 05:51AM

  Try to see this team for what it is.

RFL222August 13, 2017 10:20AM

  Thank you. nm

Saguaro209August 13, 2017 10:28AM

  You understand blocking?

JamesJM226August 13, 2017 10:34AM

  LOL. Well, I understand blocking circa 1972!

RFL221August 13, 2017 10:52AM

  Re: Question...

dzrams203August 13, 2017 06:29PM

  ++1....nm

Arkansas Ram332August 13, 2017 05:14AM

  ZN I think some people are expecting dominance, or flashy attack style passing.

six2stack254August 13, 2017 05:18AM

  dropped balls, fumbles, bad oline play

ferragamo79333August 13, 2017 05:45AM

  Re: Expectations.... maybe I misread everyone....

oldschoolramfan241August 13, 2017 05:49AM

  Re: Expectations.... maybe I misread everyone....

Rams43543August 13, 2017 06:05AM

  On Mannion ...

RFL219August 13, 2017 11:01AM

  +1 (nm)

zn190August 13, 2017 11:04AM

  Re: On Mannion ...

Rams43219August 13, 2017 12:09PM

  How much of it was on Mannion?

RFL202August 13, 2017 12:29PM

  Re: How much of it was on Mannion?

Rams43204August 13, 2017 12:35PM

  Backup OL and fumbles

LMU93262August 13, 2017 06:11AM

  Re: Backup OL and fumbles

zn260August 13, 2017 06:19AM

  Nice analysis ZN

RounderRick227August 13, 2017 06:33AM

  Re: Backup OL and fumbles

bigjimram21225August 13, 2017 08:21AM

  defensive starters--snap counts

zn219August 13, 2017 10:02AM

  Passing game is improved

Rams_81246August 13, 2017 09:04AM

  I loved it.

RFL255August 13, 2017 09:50AM

  amen (nm

wv ram278August 13, 2017 09:53AM

  I saw the same thing.

GlacieRam387August 13, 2017 10:33AM

  I agree and that was the perfect way to put it

Rams_81290August 13, 2017 11:36AM

  Agreed

LBRamsFan208August 14, 2017 09:13AM

  Comparing it to the last game of the season last year...

Atlantic Ram233August 13, 2017 12:30PM