February 11, 2017 02:46PM | Registered: 14 years ago Posts: 7,313
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I’m sorry but I have to say that the article wasn’t very well thought out or thorough.
It’s a one-sided sales job b/c it pretty much ignored the main issue with GRob. That is, he’s a stupid, low football IQ player. Can that ever be fixed?
It pretty much rehashed what’s never been in question. He’s got great physical skills.
He says it’s not a Brian Quick project. Why not? Brian Quick is a failed project because he’s a stupid, low football IQ player. How is this any different? He didn’t go into that.
He says the only question that needs to be asked is if GRob is willing to do whatever it takes to get better. Problem is, that’s not actually the only question. It’s not even the main question IMHO.
If GRob lacks mental capacity, no matter how willing he is to get better, he’s got a limited ceiling. As Jimmy Johnson said, you can’t win with dumb players.
The biggest question isn’t about his willingness; it’s about his mental capacity.
Without discussing that major issue, the article IMO is not well thought out, balanced, or excellent.
I'm not trying to be harsh b/c I would be interested in the perspective of a knowledgeable football person who could address his physical skills and upside as well as his deficiencies in a balanced way.
By using his quote you're conflating points. Jimmy's point was you can't win with a dumb team, not that dumb players can't play.
His famous quote of shoot me if I take another dumb player was said in jest IMO because he certainly won a lot of games at both Miami and Dallas with them.
Because GRob has low mental acuity doesn't mean that he cannot become a good or even great player, it just means that he will perpetually be
prone to error.Doesn't mean he cannot learn the mechanics of the position, that's repetition and want to, not low IQ. He's shown that he wants to by getting outside help.
The new CBA IMO really has an adverse effect on players development like GRob. That and I believe Bouds had lost his fastball
Is he any dumber than Tavon Austin who scored what a 7 on his wonderlic??
The reason most lineman fail for the most part has everything to do with physical limitations, slow feet, stiffness, high pad levels etc., etc.
Jason Peters I believe led the entire NFL in pre-snap penalties and IMO he's a HOF player.
Leon Lett, Warren Sapp and Dexter Manley couldn't read.
If GRob fails it won't be because he has a low IQ for if that were the case the NFL would have problems fielding teams.
First, I agree with you on your CBA and Bouds points.
Also, I stand corrected on the Jimmy Johnson quote. I thought he was referring to dumb players so I'll take your word that he was talking about a dumb team. That said, doesn't that mean that if GRob is dumb (and Austin), we should limit the number of those types on the team?
When I talked about dumb players I'm also talking about low football IQ. As far as I know, the wonderlic just measures overall IQ. You can be illiterate and still have high
football IQ.
Some players come in very raw - like Quick and GRob - and they seem to lack the natural football intelligence to pick things up quickly or ever.
I think it's very concerning that GRob may be perpetually prone to error. It's those errors that are largely responsible for him failing up to this point.
I know he has great physical skills and I can believe that with proper coaching, he can eventually learn the mechanics of the position.
But when I watch him, it seems his struggles go beyond mechanics. For example, failing to block anyone isn't a mechanical issue, it's a mental issue. I see an inordinate dose of dumb decisions that relate to scheme and assignment. Or being error prone.
And that's without even discussing the very dumb, game-changing penalties from him that have become commonplace.
The NFL is also full of players that come in very raw and never learn what they need to be successful. Having a low football IQ is a major impediment to him getting there IMO.
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