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There is enough revisionist history stuff everywhere...

February 11, 2017 08:57AM
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9er8er
That's a big problem, and not just with Americans but with all people.

Cole may or may not have credibility, but what you've done is what so many do which is attack the messenger when you don't like the message even if that message is actually demonstrably true.

Everything Cole said there is easily validated by the evidence. Nobody should have needed Cole to say it to think about it. I didn't hear him blaming Goff specifically for the clearly inferior ethic of his WR group, most of which were asked for and have been defended on this forum. He merelyi pointed out that the WR's did not respond to Goff, he just doesn't also say don't respond to anybody. He went on to point out all the things about Goff that are also true and demonstrable that make his future prospects iffy anyway. None of it really debatable, but obviously unpleasant enough to warrant the obligatory ad hominem dismissals.

It goes both ways. Almost everyone is agenda driven to some degree.

Without getting into it all, in this particular case Cole has reported details on an incident that is troublesome for the Rams organization more than it is for Goff. And it's very plausible.

More than anything this is sad commentary on Fisher, the staff he assembled, and the knuckle-headed WRs he signed off on. Goff may not be the vocal take charge type, but he got zero support from anyone on this team starting with Fisher on down.

But to me the most ridiculous claims are by people who still don't recognize that there is such a thing as a losing culture and that the Rams have had one for many years now.



~ max ~
“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Do the Rams receivers respect Jared Goff? –Cole Audio

RamBill1121February 09, 2017 06:05PM

  Really sad

Ram49636February 09, 2017 06:54PM

  Why do you torture yourself?

BumRap566February 09, 2017 07:11PM

  agree. Don't need Cole to tell me Rams stink.

max456February 10, 2017 03:41AM

  Re: This is just a dumb report.......

oldschoolramfan427February 10, 2017 05:04AM

  and he was a struggling rookie qb on a team that could not run.

zn498February 10, 2017 05:12AM

  Re: and he was a struggling rookie qb on a team that could not run.

six2stack360February 10, 2017 05:25AM

  I did see signs I liked

zn409February 10, 2017 05:27AM

  Re: I did see signs I liked

six2stack547February 10, 2017 05:40AM

  I wouldn't say the same about Keith Null and in fact didnt

zn432February 10, 2017 05:57AM

  One thing is for sure...

Rams43424February 10, 2017 05:59AM

  Re: One thing is for sure...

bigjimram21381February 11, 2017 01:09PM

  Re: I did see signs I liked

bigjimram21355February 11, 2017 01:03PM

  to me that wasn't all the OL

zn671February 11, 2017 01:08PM

  Re: to me that wasn't all the OL

bigjimram21522February 11, 2017 01:11PM

  Re: to me that wasn't all the OL

zn293February 11, 2017 01:42PM

  Re: and he was a struggling rookie qb on a team that could not run.

TheGuru488February 10, 2017 06:01AM

  Re: and he was a struggling rookie qb on a team that could not run.

bigjimram21367February 11, 2017 12:58PM

  Re: NO...

laram640February 10, 2017 06:03AM

  Looks like my bench press rack...nm

RFIP372February 10, 2017 06:55AM

  Yup. That's exactly it. nm

max437February 10, 2017 07:07AM

  nice rack nm

21Dog320February 10, 2017 07:10AM

  The weight rack

Ram49462February 10, 2017 07:15AM

  Re: I seriously doubt Jared could do that...NM

laram355February 10, 2017 08:11AM

  Man he better!!!

Ram49379February 10, 2017 12:33PM

  Be careful old man

LesBaker491February 10, 2017 11:36AM

  LOL

Ram49348February 10, 2017 12:33PM

  You should see me

LesBaker485February 10, 2017 04:55PM

  Re: The weight rack

no name334February 10, 2017 05:53PM

  Nor do they respect the game or their own craft.

Old Goat359February 11, 2017 04:12AM

  Not to mention he has zero cred

LesBaker485February 10, 2017 05:35AM

  Yes, but everybody here is talking about it, right?

RockRam394February 10, 2017 06:03AM

  What you are saying is true

LesBaker362February 10, 2017 06:32AM

  Actually, your visceral response here

9er8er485February 11, 2017 06:23AM

  There is enough revisionist history stuff everywhere...

max342February 11, 2017 08:57AM

  Plausible is not evidence.

RockRam364February 11, 2017 11:57AM

  The message doesn't matter Cole is a know click baiter

LesBaker364February 11, 2017 01:37PM

  Nah

Ram49361February 10, 2017 07:17AM

  Keep the baby

IowaRam433February 10, 2017 07:49AM

  What if there is no baby?

9er8er488February 11, 2017 06:11AM

  Re: What if there is no baby?

Rams43348February 11, 2017 06:25AM

  It will always be next year

9er8er339February 11, 2017 07:37AM

  Re: It will always be next year

Rams43368February 11, 2017 07:52AM

  It's not just the 7 game set

9er8er405February 11, 2017 07:58AM

  Re: It's not just the 7 game set

Rams43434February 11, 2017 08:10AM

  agree

ferragamo79363February 11, 2017 01:02PM

  Jury is in on his rookie season

9er8er473February 11, 2017 07:13PM

  You do have to admit that Fisher and offense distorts evaluation

Rams_81412February 13, 2017 02:58AM

  Wrong question...

jemach391February 12, 2017 09:32AM

  Another Fisher trait is poor route running

Rams_81333February 13, 2017 07:00AM