QuoteLMU93 And because so often getting true consensus is extremely difficult and sometimes impossible, there is contingency for that. The goal can be consensus with the fallback being decision by Snead. And consensus can also mean some people saying they "can go along with that choice" vs. everyone nodding that it's their top choice. Very often consensus means that. We don't evenby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDavid Deacon I think I am very much in agreement with you 43. I also agree that with better player development you get better results. I reiterate my view that the majority of the offensive misses before McVay were just bad picks. But that (finally) aside---in contrast to missing on several offensive picks, look at this detail. Research says that a team is doing well picking in the thirby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Rams draft has long been a collaboration for years, although it had to conform to Fisher’s ‘type” of players and then relied upon Fisher and his staff to develop them. There were mixed results on the O player selections. Rams draft is still a collaboration but it now conforms to McVay “types” and now relies on McVay and his coaches to develop the selections. Results have dramaticalby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAtlantic Ram I think Gurley saying that is what makes me question what's going on. Making assumptions but it would seem that you don't say something like that unless there is something significant... However he played most of the season. I did think it was odd how much they ran him but then I also thought "I'm not a trainer" so maybe there is no harm in running him a lot when he feby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
The idea that NOTHING happened? Not plausible. The idea that he got INJURED, played with the injury (that is--played with an injury to a surgical knee)? Not plausible. The idea that it was just "wear and tear"? Well...maybe that's just a euphemistic way of saying "arthritic knee" while avoiding the issue. Like telling kids that a stork brings new babies. I personalby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 QuotePHDram what happens when mcvay and snead simply disagree about a player as often happens in real life? lets say snead ranks player A #1 and mcvay ranks the same player #10. they compromise on #5. when the draft occurs, player A is on the board and snead is ready to pull the trigger, but mcvay really wants player B because mcvay still thinks Player B is better than Player A. Whoby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePHDram in the draft day videos released by the team imho. He runs the draft day goings on probably because he's the one with experience doing it. That does not mean he ranks the board, he makes the decisions unilaterally, or that they do not depend on a collaborative process. They are unrelated things--organizing and "chairing" the draft day proceedings, and planning persby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDavid Deacon Snead has done a great job. Before McVay came he drafted a Hall of Fame DT Aaron Donald. He risked everything and made a huge trade to draft a franchise QB in Goff. He drafted Gurley an all pro running back. He had a playoff quality roster in place for McVay. Snead did make a few mistakes but so has every other GM. He also had to acquire Fisher type players where thby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Well, can we at least agree that Snead was forced to draft the kind of players that Fisher outlined?. No. Have to disagree but it's with a nuance. There was nothing "forced" about it, he bought in. Does a collaborative GM type have to work with the offensive coaches he has, and meet their vision? Yes. And just as now, it's not JUST the head coach. It;s at least the OL coacby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 2019 NFL Tackle Rankings 1. David Bakhtiari, Green Bay Might have done his best work in 2018 considering it took Aaron Rodgers an average of almost three seconds to fire off a pass, which ranked as the NFL's fourth-slowest release time last season. He is Green Bay's first first-team All-Pro tackle selection since Forrest Gregg in 1967, although as one long-time NFL offensive linemby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 I was another Snead defender, I’m proud to say. Couple of things to add to your reply. 1. Perhaps Snead’s drafting under Fisher would look even better had Fisher and his crack O asst coaches been a bit more, ahh..., “adept” at developing their players. Cough, cough... 2. We should be careful to acknowledge Snead’s skill in trades and in finding more than his fair share of UDFby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
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Quotemax Was Goff ready to start in 2016? No. But so much of the problem falls directly on Fishers shoulders. I could list a ton of stuff on why but we’ve been through it so many times already. But I will say the thing that pissed me off the most was how Fisher threw Goff under the bus with that absurd sun sets in west debacle that the media used to label Goff as stupid. That was all on Fisheby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteScottish Ram Snead has done an amazing job over the last 3 years. Not many decisions that you would question and he has nailed the last 3 drafts. I was one of those defending Snead during the transition, before the first draft with McVay. It's too soon really to "grade" the 2017-19 drafts but they do appear to be good ones. But Rams drafted well from 2012 on. I generally argby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93Not saying they shouldn't be doing this, but I can't recall a team (or at least a Rams team in my 42 seasons following them) going into the season with 5 of 8 OL having never started an NFL game. I would still consider adding a veteran backup in late August cuts (carrying 9 OL). They could add someone. They added Blythe who was a vet, but that was in May in that off-season, not at thby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
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QuoteLMU93 Can't rule it out. He is a top 3 OL coach, absolutely (and a great offensive staff overall). But in my opinion while they will plan to sit most starters during preseason guys like Demby, Noteboom and Allen need as many "live reps" as possible. Joint practices with other teams will help. But I would play all three of them in preseason pretty extensively. Gotcha. Seems reasonby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotepromomasterj Small town called Cambridge. My parents took us to Ogunquit beach in Maine every August. Small world. I live about 50 minutes north of Ogunquit.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Yes, you were always a Goff supporter, to your credit. But we’ve mowed that “Fisher coaching fubar” lawn many times already. Neither of us will apparently convince the other to change their views. So I guess this topic is one of the 10% upon which we just disagree. Moving on. Yeah that;s cool. I just think it's one of those small things, but people forget that the passiby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteden-the-coach Quoteferragamo79 back up bank it You and I usually agree, but not on this...Great kid, got to see him grow at the University of Maine and he's very smart, I expect Demby to be the starting RG next season, but that's JMHO. Great University and they run a nice program up there in Orono. You seem to know something about UM, Orono. Where are you in the USA? As it happens I aby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 I do agree that ‘16 was never just about one thing for Goff. But I do believe that Goff suffered from a lack of competent coaching, as well. With better coaching Goff could have produced better results. The kid never had a chance. I don't buy that. His passing game coordinator in 2016 is now the Eagles offensive coordinator. The Eagles don't seem to be worse off for having thby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotecool_hand_luke There was a good article I read about the Eagles process of deciding to take a franchise QB in 2016. The article detailed the decision process and actions to get in position to pick a franchise Qb and how the Eagles decided on Wentz. Part of that 'deciding on' revealed their thoughts on Goff. From tthe article the two biggest differences, for the Eagles, between Goff and Weby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 For better or worse, right now they have him penciled in as the OL's 6th man. He needs to get a lot of preseason work- across several positions. That's plausible, because Demby is a 2nd year guy and a bit of an unknown and a lower pick. But how much do we really know yet? Some guys need the time to be good enough to play, some just to refine their games but could play if called on. Iby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Quotezn Quotemax I’m more curious why Tucker is saying this stuff. He played OL in the NFL and he’s a smart guy, Princeton grad. You’d think he’d have an obvious understanding of what it takes to play LT. And how it differs from RT. If every educated jock who became a media analyst were right about everything, the world would be a different place. No matter who says it, it's thby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRockRam Assuming a QB is right handed, then the LOT must be a pass blocking specialist able to handle every type of rusher from the bull rusher to the speed rusher. The ROT of course must be a good enough pass blocker, but the QB has vision to that side of the ball and thus has a better chance of avoiding an advancing rusher from his right side. It is true, however, that in today's gamby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax I’m more curious why Tucker is saying this stuff. He played OL in the NFL and he’s a smart guy, Princeton grad. You’d think he’d have an obvious understanding of what it takes to play LT. And how it differs from RT. If every educated jock who became a media analyst were right about everything, the world would be a different place. No matter who says it, it's the argument not thby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Hes also saying you need the same ability to play RT that you need to play LT. He's saying they are interchangeable. His argument is based on defenses using their best pass rushers equally on the left and right sides. He also said teams that go far in the playoffs have 2 good OTs that can block pass rushers. QuoteTucker It means you better have a right tackle who can pass proteby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
There's nothing new about people saying that. That's an old mantra. And, if you look at teams around the league, it's not true. There's only so many human beings in existence at any given time who can play left tackle in the NFL. Yet any college tackle capable of playing in the pros can play RIGHT tackle. Right tackles are easier to find, and cheaper (last I looked, on average, right tackby zn - RamsFootballFans.com