in my reply to Waterfield... but I wanted to be honest.. and allow people to actually understand...
When I say LOUD... lot's will agree, but they really don't... because LOUD to me is several decibels above what they would consider tolerable.
Steve... I used to own a pair of JBL speakers that were the highest tech you could buy... KILLER... I used to actually turn them to my head, like headphones, max the volume and kick back.
I'm a bit ashamed to admit that... and LORD KNOWS I don't recommend it, or certainly deny that's a VERY BAD THING TO DO... but I did it.