but anything on the belt line... appendix, side, back, cuts into me and is uncomfortable... also, since it requires wearing my shirttail out to remain concealed it's not easy access, especially with a seat belt.

My pickup is not too big of a problem... I have a friend who installed a magnetic mount which he says works well. It's never jarred loose even on our ranch where it's as 'rough' as it gets. I may give that a try.... but it would be hard in my car because there isn't nearly as much room. - JamesJM