If I may intrude on this topic....

come on down to Georgia....we have 13 and 14 foot alligators in our lakes, they will take care of the whining AND provide a sharp turn and some of those 13 guest will be gone also. Down to business.....peace and tranquility on the lake! aaaaahhhhhhhhhh

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