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Re: Goff's a good QB without a doubt

November 11, 2020 01:55PM
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merlin
The question isn't that, and anyone asking that question has it wrong IMO. What she should be asking is whether he still has greatness in his ceiling. Can he get there. To this point I have steadfastly believed the answer to be yes. But right now I am afraid he might always be a good QB who dissembles when he's pressured.

Also what has to be considered is the WR corps. Goff to date in 2020 has had 2 possession wideouts to throw to, a good TE, and one RB who is a plus weapon out of the backfield (Hendy). But if Van can get rolling I think we'll have 3 possession wideouts which will help him. And if Hendy/Akers take most of the short passes we'll have fewer stuffs and more plus gains all of which should add up to a noticeably better offense.

I like how you start off there. On the red bit? Well--it's not every time. You know the most times he has been pressured in a game since 2017? It was the 2018 Monday Night Chiefs game--pressured 21 times. The next most was 20 v. Tampa in 2019.

Against the Saints in New Orleans in the championship game, it was 10 times. In SF at the end of 2019 it was 12 times--and they lost that game cause of the defense, not the qb.

Those games tell me it does not always, absolutely get down to when he is excessively pressured in a game. It also tells me that when things go completely wrong with the Rams offense it does not simply reduce to Goff getting pressured. We all know that is a part of it but in those kinds of games (Chicago in 2018, the superbowl, the first SF game in 2019, Miami) there is also always something else happening. If that were NOT true then we would not have all the games I listed where he IS pressured excessively and the offense still comes through.

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  Jourdan on Goff: Is he good?

max1141November 11, 2020 07:23AM

  Re: Jourdan on Goff: Is he good?

max267November 11, 2020 08:47AM

  Re: Goff's a good QB without a doubt

merlin237November 11, 2020 09:28AM

  Re: Goff's a good QB without a doubt

stlrams13200November 11, 2020 10:04AM

  Re: Goff's a good QB without a doubt

zn187November 11, 2020 01:55PM

  What about Pittsburgh game?

max166November 11, 2020 02:44PM

  and so was the line

zn243November 11, 2020 03:31PM

  that SF game

21Dog214November 11, 2020 03:32PM

  Re: that SF game

zn165November 11, 2020 04:45PM

  Re: that SF game

max142November 11, 2020 04:56PM

  and you think it will stay that way all year?

zn143November 11, 2020 05:09PM

  Re: and you think it will stay that way all year?

max123November 11, 2020 05:16PM

  Re: and you think it will stay that way all year?

zn112November 11, 2020 07:38PM

  Re: and you think it will stay that way all year?

max138November 12, 2020 12:20AM

  Re: and you think it will stay that way all year?

zn122November 12, 2020 02:32AM

  Re: and you think it will stay that way all year?

max130November 12, 2020 03:24AM

  we're not done?

zn141November 12, 2020 03:26AM

  Re: we're not done?

max146November 12, 2020 03:35AM

  Re: we're not done?

Ramsdude130November 12, 2020 05:16AM

  Re: no way

Speed_Kills235November 11, 2020 11:56PM

  Re: no way

MalibuRam140November 12, 2020 12:03AM

  Re: no way

Rampage2K-176November 12, 2020 12:05AM

  Re: no way

Speed_Kills231November 12, 2020 04:53AM

  so......what we've learned.......

21Dog112November 12, 2020 05:08AM

  LOL.... (nm)

JamesJM126November 12, 2020 05:29AM

  Re: Lol!!!

Speed_Kills116November 12, 2020 06:38AM

  Can we put a warning label on threads?

RantoulRam214November 11, 2020 12:37PM

  Re: Can we put a warning label on threads?

Rampage2K-156November 12, 2020 12:25AM

  its a tough listen

Speed_Kills226November 11, 2020 01:27PM

  Re: its a tough listen

max156November 11, 2020 02:46PM

  Hammond nm

Speed_Kills130November 11, 2020 02:48PM

  Re: Hammond nm

max159November 11, 2020 04:18PM

  hmmm

Speed_Kills237November 11, 2020 04:52PM

  Re: hmmm

max346November 12, 2020 12:25AM

  Re: well I’ve been saying that

Speed_Kills134November 12, 2020 04:46AM

  Re: well I’ve been saying that

Ramsdude140November 12, 2020 05:19AM

  Re: well I’ve been saying that

moklerman128November 12, 2020 08:26AM

  Re: well I’ve been saying that

Ramsdude123November 12, 2020 08:44AM

  Re: Matt Ryan doesn't collapse

Speed_Kills126November 12, 2020 09:10AM

  Re: Matt Ryan doesn't collapse

Ramsdude172November 12, 2020 09:17AM

  yes Matt Ryan has collapse games on his record

zn162November 12, 2020 09:38AM

  Re: yes Matt Ryan has collapse games on his record

Ramsdude123November 12, 2020 09:59AM

  Re: Matt Ryan doesn't collapse

Speed_Kills133November 12, 2020 10:00AM

  Re: Matt Ryan doesn't collapse

Ramsdude170November 12, 2020 10:11AM

  Re: Matt Ryan doesn't collapse

Speed_Kills117November 12, 2020 10:32AM

  Re: Matt Ryan doesn't collapse

zn123November 12, 2020 10:33AM

  Ryan v Goff since 2017

Speed_Kills236November 12, 2020 10:52AM

  moving goalposts?

zn127November 12, 2020 12:22PM

  here are Goffs games

Speed_Kills120November 12, 2020 03:32PM

  Re: here are Goffs games

zn219November 12, 2020 04:15PM

  Re: well I’ve been saying that

moklerman122November 12, 2020 09:57AM

  Re: well I’ve been saying that

Ramsdude131November 12, 2020 10:05AM

  Re: well I’ve been saying that

Rampage2K-214November 12, 2020 10:36AM

  now you change the word to clunker

Speed_Kills133November 12, 2020 10:56AM

  Re: now you change the word to clunker

Rampage2K-134November 12, 2020 11:28AM

  Re: well I’ve been saying that

moklerman168November 12, 2020 10:57AM

  Re: its a tough listen

moklerman294November 11, 2020 04:48PM

  Nice post

max292November 12, 2020 01:51AM

  Re: Jourdan on Goff: Is he good?

Deadhead Ram145November 12, 2020 05:42PM