fair enough. it just seems that those who have the biggest problem latch on to a detail or 2 and start using words like "horrible", "botch", and "puke". Thats a bit over the top imo. KD did exactly what he said he was going to do....offer a traditional look with a modern approach. the only BIG change is the bone. Will they have staying power? I dont know. Like we discussed before I believe, it all depends on sales.