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Diffferent way to look at 3rd Down

November 06, 2018 02:32PM
One of the important points to consider regarding 3rd down performance is the importance of Goff avoiding third down situations. I got the idea for this watching the game on Sunday--gettiing either offense to 3rd down was insanely difficult for the defenses. And I don't know of any current objective way to measure an Offense's skill at avoiding 3rd down.

If you take any play where on that play the offense gained a first down, got a penalty for a first down or scored a td AND the QB dropbacked to pass on all downs. Then you take the percentage of those conversions that occurred on 3rd down. The idea here being if an Offense converts a large percentage of their 1st Down Conversions on 1st and 2nd down the offense is not being forced into 3rd down situations that are trickier/riskier.

Below are the results, sorted least to greatest for % of 1st down conversions that occurred on 3rd down when the QB dropbacked to pass. I wanted to focus on the performance of the Qb.

JARED GOFF 23.0%
RYAN FITZPATRICK 23.3%
DREW BREES 24.2%
PHILIP RIVERS 24.8%
DAK PRESCOTT 25.0%
RYAN TANNEHILL 25.0%
TOM BRADY 25.2%
JAMEIS WINSTON 25.4%
ANDY DALTON 25.5%
CAM NEWTON 25.5%
CASE KEENUM 25.5%
PATRICK MAHOMES 25.7%
DEREK CARR 26.2%
CARSON WENTZ 27.7%
JOSH ROSEN 27.8%
BEN ROETHLISBERGER 28.1%
C.J. BEATHARD 28.6%
ELI MANNING 29.2%
RUSSELL WILSON 29.9%
MATTHEW STAFFORD 30.2%
DESHAUN WATSON 30.4%
AARON RODGERS 30.5%
KIRK COUSINS 30.9%
JOE FLACCO 31.4%
SAM DARNOLD 32.2%
MITCHELL TRUBISKY 32.7%
ALEX SMITH 36.1%
BAKER MAYFIELD 36.6%
MATT RYAN 36.8%
MARCUS MARIOTA 37.3%
BLAKE BORTLES 37.5%
JOSH ALLEN 39.2%
ANDREW LUCK 42.9%
BROCK OSWEILER 44.7%
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Goff-- #1 passer rating on 1st down

RamBill383November 06, 2018 10:26AM

  Where is he on 3rd down?

max170November 06, 2018 10:54AM

  Actually, and without peaking...

JamesJM223November 06, 2018 11:59AM

  Re: Where is he on 3rd down?

Rampage2K-225November 06, 2018 12:02PM

  Nope, He's not so good on 3rd down this year

max240November 06, 2018 01:53PM

  Re: Nope, He's not so good on 3rd down this year

Rampage2K-158November 06, 2018 02:05PM

  Diffferent way to look at 3rd Down

cool_hand_luke172November 06, 2018 02:32PM

  Here ya go...

max145November 06, 2018 02:43PM

  Re: Here ya go...

cool_hand_luke201November 06, 2018 02:51PM

  Re: Here ya go...

ABQRam173November 07, 2018 03:57AM

  Re: Nope, He's not so good on 3rd down this year

cool_hand_luke137November 06, 2018 02:36PM

  Goff leads league in pct of passes for 1st downs

LMU93236November 07, 2018 01:39AM

  Re: Where is he on 3rd down?

Classicalwit127November 06, 2018 02:23PM

  I LOVE Dak Prescott...

sstrams157November 06, 2018 02:31PM

  Goff rankings on 3rd down percentage

zn166November 07, 2018 05:20AM