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November 05, 2018 05:29PM
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dzrams
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Suh-weet!

Teams are scoring 24 pts/game on average now, up a couple points from last year.

But really? 42 points with no "give backs" is what it'd take for you to be satisfied? KC and NO have each given the ball away 8 times, the Pats 13 times. I have no idea how many of those led directly to scores. And they miss field goals, etc. The Broncos in 2013 scored 39/game, most ever, and had some number of "give backs" that led to points. They also had a D and special teams that scored points for them too.

If the most prolific offense in NFL history can't come within a touchdown (at least, I'm guessing) of your standard for satisfaction (allowing for adjustments in re "give aways," etc.), it just may be too high. KC is even further away from that standard.

And, happily, I think you're wrong. Whether it's the Rams or some other team, I'll guess that whoever wins the Super Bowl this year will NOT have needed to score 40+ in every playoff game.

Finally, the Rams didn't invest crazy dollars in their defense so they could *hold* the Chiefs/Saints/Pats/whoever to under 40 pts. I'm very hopeful that our D can do much better than that!

I'm not saying they need to AVERAGE 40+ over a season. I'm saying if they want to beat these teams that are averaging 35+ now, they will need to score 40+. IOW, I'm only concerned about what we're doing against the elite teams.

We don't need to play perfectly every week and certainly not against subpar teams. But more is required against the best and more will be necessary in the playoffs.

Nor did I say they need 40+ in every playoff game. But they will likely need 40+ in the playoffs against NO, KC, and NE. Stated another way, I doubt that whoever wins the SB will do so without having to score more than 35 in at least one, and possibly, multiple games.

And BTW, scoring is not up just a little. League wide, scoring is up 11%. However, among the top 10 offenses, scoring is up approx. 15%. That's a substantial increase.

The Rams scoring is up roughly 15 and is exactly on par with that trend. But the top two teams are way above the trend. KC is up 40%, NO is up 25%. NE is scoring more but they're not keeping up with the trend. Carolina interestingly enough is #11 both years but they are up 20% this year.

Anyway, I'm looking at the top teams because that's who we'll be playing in the playoffs. I'm not worried about keeping pace with bad teams.

...And when the top teams are averaging 36, yeah, I think we may need a couple of 42s to get us over the top.

I know we paid a ton of money for our defense and I have hope too but judging by the way things look, defenses as a whole are not slowing the top scoring teams down.

I stand by my position: 35 points and giving some back will not be enough this year to win. But we shall see...

... I don't think we're arguing about much.

For one, in saying scoring was up a couple points I wasn't trivializing the increase. To be more specific, scoring has increased from 21.7 to 24.1 ppg = 2.4/24.1 = 10%. Your numbers or mine probably doesn't account for the most recent games, but clearly there's no real disagreement on the fact of a significant increase overall. And I take your word for it in re the top teams/offenses.

And this - "...And when the top teams are averaging 36, yeah, I think we may need a couple of 42s to get us over the top." Of course we may. No argument there. AND KC has also been held to 30 or less 3x; the Rams, 2x; the Saints, 3x; the Pats, 3x (and to 31 or less 5x). Not only can it be done, it's been done roughly 35% of the time. Those three teams have been *held* under 40 18x.

I expect KC to put up a lot of points in two weeks because the Rams D is a mess. But if these two teams meet in the Bowl, or if the Rams meet the Saints before that, I do NOT expect the Rams to have to break 40 to win the matchup. Shored up by Talib's return, w/Fowler fully on board, Peters improved or benched, etc., and Wade & co. having figured stuff out, I'll expect the D to do what 1/3rd of the defenses have done when facing that trio - hold them to 30 or less.

We'll see!
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  After reflecting for a day...

Rams43781November 05, 2018 07:08AM

  Oops! Missed a very obvious one...

Rams43310November 05, 2018 07:22AM

  Hekker and ball placement...

JamesJM300November 05, 2018 07:42AM

  Curious to see if league reviews that call.

Ramgator255November 05, 2018 07:46AM

  why in the hell cant they bring that orange stipe all the way across the sideline?

Rampage2K-247November 05, 2018 07:51AM

  Re: Hekker and ball placement...

embraceable_ewe83234November 05, 2018 08:05AM

  Re: Hekker and ball placement...

Ken370November 05, 2018 08:23AM

  Re: Hekker and ball placement...

Rams43212November 05, 2018 08:30AM

  This happens a lot, however...

JamesJM207November 05, 2018 08:32AM

  Re: Hekker and ball placement...

oldschoolramfan381November 05, 2018 08:41AM

  Re: I have a nitpick...

dzrams284November 05, 2018 07:54AM

  Re: I have a nitpick...

Rams43419November 05, 2018 08:15AM

  Re: But they did contribute to the loss

Speed_Kills351November 05, 2018 08:20AM

  Re: But they did contribute to the loss

Rams43175November 05, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: New Orleans defense is one of the worst in football

Speed_Kills212November 05, 2018 08:38AM

  People keep saying NO has a pathetic defense..

sstrams290November 05, 2018 08:40AM

  Re: New Orleans defense is one of the worst in football

Rams43371November 05, 2018 08:41AM

  If Peters doesn't give up big play on 3rd down

ferragamo79272November 05, 2018 08:44AM

  Ram's gave up 35pts in one half....

JamesJM181November 05, 2018 08:44AM

  Re: Ram's gave up 35pts in one half....

dzrams264November 05, 2018 08:52AM

  That's always true....

JamesJM190November 05, 2018 09:01AM

  Re: well everyone has an opinion

Speed_Kills215November 05, 2018 09:09AM

  I agree with most of that....

JamesJM186November 05, 2018 09:16AM

  Re: Wow really?

Speed_Kills199November 05, 2018 09:22AM

  We can agree to disagree... but just to be clear...

JamesJM182November 05, 2018 10:34AM

  Re: well everyone has an opinion

Rams43157November 05, 2018 09:30AM

  Re: But no, not really!!! I'd say 28...

dzrams180November 05, 2018 09:57AM

  Re: But no, not really!!! I'd say 28...

Rams43164November 05, 2018 10:52AM

  Re: The more I think about this...

dzrams168November 05, 2018 10:04AM

  Re: I have a nitpick...

dzrams176November 05, 2018 08:48AM

  Re: I have a nitpick...

Rampage2K-176November 05, 2018 08:54AM

  Not feelin' this argument at all

Suh-weet!212November 05, 2018 10:11AM

  Re: Some good points...

dzrams195November 05, 2018 10:40AM

  Scoring is definitely up...

Suh-weet!126November 05, 2018 02:30PM

  Re: You're not hearing me...

dzrams128November 05, 2018 04:49PM

  I'm hearing you perfectly and, actually,...

Suh-weet!152November 05, 2018 05:29PM

  Re: I have a nitpick...Ravens?

Rampage2K-226November 05, 2018 08:18AM

  Re: I have a nitpick...Ravens?

dzrams219November 05, 2018 08:29AM

  Re: maybe Carolina?

Speed_Kills337November 05, 2018 08:40AM

  you mention the chiefs

Drew2839254November 05, 2018 08:23AM

  I dunno about Seattle..

sstrams198November 05, 2018 08:28AM

  Well, I did have quite a bit of chili yesterday

Drew2839234November 05, 2018 09:05AM

  Re: After reflecting for a day...

JYB187November 05, 2018 11:07AM

  ten points in second half

wv ram191November 05, 2018 02:36PM