October 18, 2018 10:00AM
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I'm in no way slamming McVay, but like any offensive play caller he has some warts. He himself is being self critical on this as well.

I understand that McVay is aggressive, and that is much of the reason of our success. I just think there is a time to dial back that aggressiveness. With how successful they had been running the ball, and forgetting about the actual details of the play, but rather the actual play call, in that situation I think you should dial it back a bit. JMHO

Yeah being "aggressive" on every play regardless of situation is just as dogmatic as being "conservative" on every play.

The best play callers have a good situational awareness.

McVay himself directly comments on that and on how he should develop a finer sense of situational awareness which you can do without being less aggressive overall.

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Those are the things that, hopefully, you get better with and you learn from experience. But the aggressive nature in which we operate and try to attack people, I’ll never apologize for that. It’s more of the situational awareness

The way I read that, he's basically saying that the 2 things---being aggressive, situational awarenss--don't contradict one another.



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I agree with this over all.

Above, I stated to err is human and that I'd rather err on the aggressive side. But I also understand we're searching for perfection, and if not that, at least improvement. And I realize that he can improve as a play caller.

However, on that particular sequence it was still the 3rd quarter. If McVay feels he needs to dial it back that early, I'm gonna have to disagree with the coach. I've seen too many teams be burned by dialing anything back in the 3rd.

My vote is that they play their normal game until some point in the 4th.

Well the one I am talking about is the 4th quarter .

[www.pro-football-reference.com]

4 11:02 3 3 DEN 19 Jared Goff sacked by Bradley Chubb for -10 yards
4 10:19 4 13 DEN 29 Cairo Santos 47 yard field goal no good

Rams are up 20-10 at that point

So to list the factors again which I count heavily here:

1. they are in FG range on the 3rd and 3...or at least pretty comfortable FG range, a 37 yarder
2. Denver was already hitting on a 12.5% sack percentage, which if ranked across 6 games would be the best in the league (or, from the Rams side, the worst). This is the team with Von Miller of course.
3. Denver was playing pass first. They were pass rushing and covering and downplaying the run to the point of ignoring play action.
4. Gurley was having a day.
5. Even if a run gets nothing it's still better FG range and you don't have GZ.
6. a FG puts you up by 13 with 10 minutes left in the 4th.

There's being aggressive and then there's stopping for a sec and noticing the situation.

By taking the sack and so missing the FG, you risk the possibility that Denver can get back in the game. A 10 point lead at that point meant the Rams needed to score again to win. A 13 point lead at that point lessens Denver's chance to get back in it (In fact the margin of victory was 3 points, though that's hindsight.)
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  McVay too harsh on himself. Attachments

govane643October 17, 2018 09:40AM

  Re: McVay too harsh on himself.

Rampage2K-203October 17, 2018 09:43AM

  Re: McVay too harsh on himself.

govane186October 17, 2018 09:47AM

  Re: First RZ chance... Attachments

govane215October 17, 2018 10:00AM

  Re: Kupp is bracketed in that play

Speed_Kills178October 17, 2018 10:05AM

  Re: Interesting

Speed_Kills196October 17, 2018 10:02AM

  Re: Interesting

govane179October 17, 2018 10:08AM

  Re: the issue people have with this play is situational

Speed_Kills163October 17, 2018 10:08AM

  I'm not sure you can just run all the time...

promomasterj458October 17, 2018 10:24AM

  I thought that was a bad play sequence..

sacram156October 17, 2018 11:46AM

  Re: I thought that was a bad play sequence..

Rampage2K-142October 17, 2018 11:57AM

  Re: I thought that was a bad play sequence..

sacram91October 18, 2018 07:58AM

  Re: I thought that was a bad play sequence..

Rampage2K-100October 18, 2018 09:09AM

  Re: I thought that was a bad play sequence..

govane144October 17, 2018 12:03PM

  Re: I thought that was a bad play sequence..

Rampage2K-142October 17, 2018 12:13PM

  Re: or of you hand it off and let Gurley rip off 8 to 10 yards

Speed_Kills124October 17, 2018 12:53PM

  Re: there was nothing wrong with the throw

Speed_Kills114October 17, 2018 12:51PM

  I don't understand why some aren't getting this

zn165October 17, 2018 02:41PM

  Re: I don't understand why some aren't getting this

Ramsdude163October 17, 2018 02:53PM

  Re: I don't understand why some aren't getting this

sacram142October 18, 2018 08:09AM

  Re: I don't understand why some aren't getting this

zn104October 18, 2018 08:18AM

  Re: I don't understand why some aren't getting this

dzrams111October 18, 2018 08:33AM

  Re: I don't understand why some aren't getting this

zn102October 18, 2018 10:00AM

  Re: Boom!

Speed_Kills94October 18, 2018 08:42AM

  Re: This right here...++++1....NM

dzrams88October 18, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: I don't understand why some aren't getting this

george_allen155October 17, 2018 03:43PM

  Re: I thought that was a bad play sequence..

dzrams102October 18, 2018 08:25AM

  He adjusted on the next drive...

sacram84October 18, 2018 11:12AM

  Agree, agree, agree

NewMexicoRam88October 18, 2018 09:10AM

  Re: 2nd FG drive. Attachments

govane175October 17, 2018 12:22PM

  Re: question?

Speed_Kills132October 17, 2018 12:57PM

  Re: question?

Rampage2K-157October 17, 2018 01:09PM

  Re: question?

govane131October 17, 2018 01:09PM

  Re: question?

Ramsdude96October 17, 2018 02:25PM

  Re: 2nd FG drive.

RamsFanSinceLA104October 17, 2018 01:45PM

  Re: 2nd FG drive.

govane89October 17, 2018 01:58PM

  Re: 2nd FG drive.

RamsFanSinceLA99October 17, 2018 02:56PM

  Re: 2nd FG drive. Attachments

govane105October 18, 2018 08:16AM

  Re: Another red zone miss.. Attachments

govane98October 19, 2018 01:01PM

  Re: 2nd Punt Drive. Attachments

govane147October 17, 2018 01:46PM

  Are we manufacturing things to worry about?

Rams43155October 17, 2018 02:34PM

  why do you put it that way? It;s not real

zn148October 17, 2018 02:48PM

  Re: why do you put it that way? It;s not real

Rams43134October 17, 2018 03:01PM

  Re: +1....the sky is not falling...

dzrams143October 17, 2018 04:00PM

  I saw no such thing

zn164October 17, 2018 04:06PM

  Re: Maybe it's just me but that's the sense I got...

dzrams134October 17, 2018 04:45PM

  my view

zn160October 17, 2018 05:06PM