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Re: re-post: long good Goff analysis

October 13, 2018 01:31PM
Never got a chance to really respond.

I know parts of that post will be controversial but that aside I think you put really well a lot of things I think we're all seeing but not a lot of us have typed it all up.

These are the things I agree with the most:

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Where he is better Goff: 2017 vs 2018 (small changes lead to big results)

Goff last year wasn’t throwing into tight windows I think because he was on a short leash because he didn’t know the system.

I also think that Goff is more accurate at 40+ yards down the field this year….but the same accuracy everywhere else.


Related to tight windows:

Part of the reason he threw no endzone interceptions last year was because he wasn’t looking to be a super star. This year he is much more aggressive…and with this comes some interceptions. That int in the redzone against Seattle wasn’t “his fault” (it was, hold on); but, really he should know that there is a 10-25% of the ball being tipped in ithgt coverage at the goal line with 5 guys surround that receiver….yep, actually, it was his fault. The goal line defender is allowed to swarm the receiver---the refs allow it, and Goff should know this already.

This year he looks much more able to improvise---meaning his mind is ready, he can adjust his arm angle and probably his core strength is better because his throwing velocity is more consistent.

The ball looks like it is coming out ‘cleaner’, all the time, as compared to last year. He also has been throwing from more unique arm-angles this year---while, also having the ball on target. His throwing strength is soooo much better this year overall.

Goff Strengths:

Some of his throws over LBs and to TE (Higs) vs Dallas and a few others are throws that no other QB makes. I am not sure Brady or Brees would think they could make those throws (based on the D-lineman coming at them, and angles etc.). Most QBs throw the ball too hard these days: they can’t take any velocity off, AND still release the ball in time. ... Goff's anticipation helps him because he throws a bit softer, so he has to throw a millisecond faster---and his softer throws make for an easier completion at 1-8 yards of the LOS.

*He anticipates at probably near elite levels, too.

*Intelligence: he is waaaay up there…

*Leadership: like Montana people will rally around him. Notice the entire Cal squad got a room to see him drafted. What other college teams do that for their QBs???

*Temperment: No ego, no yelling, no adrenaline rushes that say ‘look at me’, small pride, or so it seems. Who can’t like that? In football, liking who you play with is much more important than baseball and basketball (and prob hockey). By nature this causes team-building—even the biggest jerks have to like Goff,

*Goff doesn’t throw the ball in the position where the defender can make a play—almost ever. Actually, this might be at the highest level in the NFL. (ya, he does have 1-2 really questionable throws a game, I know). This ability to not compromise the catch point, or the WRs health, is a spatial intelligence because he has to know that in the 1.5 seconds the ball gets to the WR, that the defender can’t make a play on it at knee or ankle level, and then he throws it exactly there! Few, few, few can do this. Marino did, I think. Elway never did this….he just ripped it. Though he was a great ripper!

*Adrenaline maintenance: .... Montana was probably the all-timer in this

*He throws the most catchable ball in the NFL outside of Case K, lol (nose doesn’t dive with so much velocity)….this, IDK, might be more about the firmness/softness with which he throws—or the nose up.

Where he needs to improve:

*Scanning: he is doing a great job for a 3rd year guy. But, he isn’t at Wentz-level, yet…..he will be.

Conclusion:
I have watched between 4-7 full NFL games 52 weeks a year the last 7 years. Usually, 1980-1988 and current day stuff. I have studied football quite a bit, too.
And so I say:
Goff is soooo special. Rare special; HOWEVER, a good part of his success is related to the incredible O line play.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/13/2018 01:32PM by zn.
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  re-post: long good Goff analysis

zn520October 13, 2018 01:23PM

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zn200October 13, 2018 01:31PM

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Steve116October 13, 2018 07:59PM

  Re: re-post: long good Goff analysis

moklerman93October 14, 2018 04:35AM

  I think you're scaling down makes more sense...

jemach149October 14, 2018 04:51AM

  I'm with you... regarding Warner's accuracy....

JamesJM85October 14, 2018 05:01AM

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NJRam715118October 13, 2018 07:57PM

  Re: re-post: long good Goff analysis

Steve159October 13, 2018 08:00PM

  garbage

Deadpool193October 13, 2018 08:39PM

  Re: garbage

zn186October 13, 2018 08:55PM

  I did, but this is really alot easier then the original poster is making it out to be.

Deadpool136October 13, 2018 09:02PM

  Re: I did, but this is really alot easier then the original poster is making it out to be.

zn122October 13, 2018 09:12PM

  Found it ZN

Deadpool139October 13, 2018 09:17PM

  Re: Found it ZN

zn122October 13, 2018 09:24PM

  I agree

Deadpool214October 13, 2018 09:32PM

  Re: I agree

zn232October 13, 2018 09:48PM

  Re: Triple KUDOs to Deadpool

leafnose116October 14, 2018 05:57AM

  what I have heard

Deadpool95October 14, 2018 08:09AM

  And since I have your attention

Deadpool116October 13, 2018 09:25PM

  Re: And since I have your attention

zn111October 13, 2018 09:27PM

  What I like about this... it's honest...

JamesJM111October 14, 2018 04:53AM

  Re: re-post: long good Goff analysis -Thanks

David Deacon90October 14, 2018 07:18AM

  Goff has been fantastic

LMU93110October 15, 2018 06:01AM