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Re: what happens

September 10, 2018 09:38AM
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waterfield
Another aspect of this is the money. The Rams have drafted players before with high expectations-even QBs-who for whatever reasons didn't play as expected. Yet they didn't seem to generate the venom similar to Bradford. Take away the enormous contract he signed with the Rams just before the CBA changed things a his injuries and perceived failures wouldn't be so bothersome to many. It's simply a lot easier to dislike a person who is making so much more money than we could ever imagine and yet somehow doesn't match our expectations than someone who with similar failures but not making near the same money.. And when I use the work "dislike" I'm referring to those who call him a fake or fraud or some other derogatory comment directed at him, not as a player,but as a person. In a word its called "envy". (i.e. " I wish I could make that kind of money for doing nothing" )

The funny thing about the contract is, it turned out to be a bargain .

The new CBA set up 4 year contracts and Bradford, who was drafted and signed under the old CBA, was on a 6 year. That meant that starting in year 4 and going through 5 and 6 he was getting less than other 1st and 2nd round qbs up for 2nd contracts. So in 2015 he was a 12 M a year qb in a league that was paying Dalton 16 M, Tannenhill 19 M, Newton 20.7 M, and Wilson 22 M.

Another thing...and I believed (and said) this before the 2010 draft...he was not an elite qb prospect. His "tier" was to be good to very good, like Flacco and Eli in their best years.

So the irony was, I was debating people before the draft in 2010 who said he would be elite (I didn;t see it) and then afterward, saying he would be good in good circumstances to people who said he was a bust. Sometimes it was the same people I was debating in 2013 that I had been debating before the draft in 2010. cool smiley

The Bradford debates were always loaded with extracurricular issues, as you said.

He's still on the list of better Rams qbs. That's in spite of the fact that from 2011 through 2013 he only played 15 of 33 games with a relatively healthy OL. And I don't mean an injury here or there, from 2011 through the first half of 2012 the OLs were Battle of the Somme level injured and diminished. We don't wish that on Goff.

Goff will be the better qb longterm but what destroyed SB as everyone knows is the long series of injuries.


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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/10/2018 09:50AM by zn.
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  Tavon Austin lit it up today

ferragamo791309September 09, 2018 02:46PM

  As did Bradford

DaJudge474September 09, 2018 02:48PM

  Re: As did Bradford

zn322September 09, 2018 02:59PM

  Re: As did Bradford

max280September 09, 2018 03:05PM

  Re: As did Bradford

zn247September 09, 2018 03:15PM

  Re: As did Bradford

Speed_Kills248September 09, 2018 03:20PM

  Re: As did Bradford

zn332September 09, 2018 03:22PM

  Re: As did Bradford

max396September 09, 2018 03:52PM

  Re: The thing I wonder about is

Speed_Kills247September 09, 2018 03:16PM

  Re: The thing I wonder about is

Ramsdude238September 09, 2018 03:18PM

  Agreed nm

Speed_Kills223September 09, 2018 03:26PM

  Re: The thing I wonder about is

zn250September 09, 2018 03:36PM

  Re: The thing I wonder about is

zn246September 09, 2018 03:21PM

  Re: The thing I wonder about is

Speed_Kills302September 09, 2018 03:24PM

  Re: The thing I wonder about is

zn252September 09, 2018 03:30PM

  Re: The thing I wonder about is

Speed_Kills345September 09, 2018 03:35PM

  Re: The thing I wonder about is

zn281September 09, 2018 03:37PM

  So now his stints in

Speed_Kills191September 09, 2018 03:41PM

  Re: So now his stints in

zn213September 09, 2018 03:43PM

  Anyway, we don't need to argue Sam Bradford on this board...

Saguaro170September 09, 2018 08:33PM

  Not in the debate you guys are having BUT...

JamesJM169September 09, 2018 08:55PM

  what happens

zn183September 10, 2018 05:41AM

  Re: what happens

waterfield144September 10, 2018 09:29AM

  Re: what happens

zn148September 10, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: But you find here and

Speed_Kills163September 10, 2018 02:27AM

  Re: But you find here and

waterfield177September 10, 2018 10:18AM

  Heh, well...

Saguaro255September 10, 2018 10:40AM

  exactly right

Speed_Kills328September 10, 2018 10:51AM

  Re: As did Bradford

Ramsdude232September 09, 2018 03:15PM

  he had more

zn307September 09, 2018 02:50PM

  He's still learning the playbook

stlrams13249September 09, 2018 02:54PM

  That could take a while....nm

RamBum207September 09, 2018 02:57PM

  Re: He's still learning the playbook

zn260September 09, 2018 03:00PM

  Re: He's still learning the playbook

Classicalwit247September 09, 2018 03:05PM

  Re: He's still learning the playbook

zn231September 09, 2018 03:14PM

  Exactly

CeeZar293September 09, 2018 03:16PM

  Re: Exactly

Ramsdude330September 09, 2018 03:19PM

  Watkins too (Wink)

Speed_Kills315September 09, 2018 03:03PM

  Don't forget his reception

CeeZar426September 09, 2018 03:10PM

  Re: Tavon Austin....Cowboys did us a HUGE favor...

oldschoolramfan277September 09, 2018 03:10PM

  Re: Tavon Austin lit it up today

george_allen291September 09, 2018 03:21PM

  Re: Tavon Austin lit it up today....so did Dak

Rampage2K-249September 09, 2018 09:26PM

  Watson

Steve165September 10, 2018 02:34AM

  I can honestly say that Austin...

JamesJM194September 09, 2018 10:53PM

  Re: Tavon Austin lit it up today

MamaRAMa175September 10, 2018 04:12AM

  Re: Tavon Austin lit it up today

David Deacon149September 10, 2018 06:26AM

  Re: Tavon Austin lit it up today

SoCalRAMatic152September 10, 2018 06:53AM

  Interesting..

jemach141September 10, 2018 09:32AM

  Re: Greatest Training Camp Player of All Time

merlin167September 10, 2018 08:40AM

  I find it incredibly interesting...

jemach289September 10, 2018 09:54AM

  Re: I find it incredibly interesting...

Rams43202September 10, 2018 10:08AM

  I think that is a solid answer...

jemach282September 10, 2018 10:51AM

  I think it is the players

SUretHing138September 10, 2018 11:11AM