I know Kupp killed it against P12 comp. I'm just pointing out he's yet to beat anyone else on the pro level. The Seahawks and Cards have great secondaries. Our second round TE might be the next J Reed. But, right now he's not. I don't want to frown on our new guys. I really really hope they dominate from the get go. I have nothing against McVay. His O scheme should work, in time. With the new NFL work agreement teams have limited practice time. Goff hasn't thrown to any of these guys except TG30, Tavon, Spruce and marquis. Not to Woods, Everet, or Reynolds. He's never passed to Dunbar either. These things take time. Our OL will need time to gel too. How long it all takes? I predict good things starting to happen over the last four games next season. I'm expecting tough watching the first 12. I am very hopeful for 2018.