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Re: Fully agree... nm

April 29, 2017 01:03PM
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My point is that I am questioning your mindset. Do you always look at a situation where there is a stud OL on the board like Kalil or Lamp and watch your team pass on him and say, well I trust them?

Sometime you gotta look at the history of passing on stud OL and questioning your teams thought process. At least thats what Im doing now, finally.

Why would you associate one prior regime's history with the current regime?

And here's another perspective that I haven't heard anyone mention.

Is it possible that the OL solutions are already on the team?

Somewhere in the thread, someone referred to Fisher and his incompetency and how he tried to solve the problem by drafting a ton of OL in one year.

Just maybe it's possible that those seeds planted in 2015 are beginning to sprout now. It's well known that O'linemen take about three years to develop. It's not one of the more immediate dividend positions. (Actually expectations should be low for rookies at all positions judging by history.) Well, this is the third season and we may see some of those players emerge.

McVay said they would cross train and essentially that the answers are on the roster. Maybe he's right. I don't see evidence yet for why I need to look at his decisions with skepticism. Do you? If he didn't think some of the players on the roster would emerge then I'm sure he would have prioritized "stud" OL.

That's the other thing. This draft was said to lack "studs" at OL. Maybe in their evaluation, neither Snead or McVay saw Lamp or anyone else as a stud.

I've mentioned that argument more than once. These guys didn't want OL. They had chances and didn't want them. Meanwhile, along with Whitworth, Saffold, and Sullivan, they have Arkin, Brown, Donnal, Wichmann, Hav, Robinson, Murphy, and Williams.

And they had them in "camp" before the draft too. They had Kromer watching film on them. They have some idea of who they have.

No one can honestly or realistically say right now how that OL will develop. Anyone who claims to know, and things happen the way they predicted, down the line I am still going to say no, you could not possibly have known. You took a 50/50 shot and guessed right. But truth is you like everyone else had no idea.

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  Yep. Pretty scary.

max424April 29, 2017 10:35AM

  Re: Yep. Pretty scary.

six2stack327April 29, 2017 10:40AM

  Re: Yeah it's highly unusual.

laram357April 29, 2017 10:42AM

  I agree

RFIP326April 29, 2017 10:49AM

  I think you look no further than

stlramz236April 29, 2017 07:20PM

  Re: Yep. Pretty scary.

RamBill536April 29, 2017 10:56AM

  How about this...

max278April 29, 2017 11:03AM

  How dare you

RamUK275April 29, 2017 11:04AM

  Re: How about this...

Rams43287April 29, 2017 11:15AM

  It's an heuristic

RamUK279April 29, 2017 11:22AM

  Re: How about this...

max290April 29, 2017 11:28AM

  Re: How about this...

Rams43399April 29, 2017 11:42AM

  Simple...

max247April 29, 2017 11:47AM

  Re: Simple...

Rams43416April 29, 2017 11:54AM

  We are going nowhere with this. Agree to disagree. nm

max248April 29, 2017 12:09PM

  Re: Simple...

dzrams304April 29, 2017 12:18PM

  Re: Simple...

zn248April 29, 2017 12:59PM

  Re: Fully agree... nm

dzrams256April 29, 2017 01:03PM

  False equivalency

RamUK393April 29, 2017 01:49PM

  Depends on what you hope to be convinced of

9er8er395April 29, 2017 11:07AM

  I agree Max

droopy296April 29, 2017 10:58AM

  Re: I agree Max

six2stack264April 29, 2017 11:01AM

  and this is the crux of the problem

PHDram283April 29, 2017 11:26AM

  I don't think you understand the concept of probability

9er8er269April 29, 2017 11:38AM

  Re: I don't think you understand the concept of probability

Rams43264April 29, 2017 11:44AM

  I don't know what you do and don't detect

9er8er239April 29, 2017 11:48AM

  Re: I don't think you understand the concept of probability

dzrams256April 29, 2017 11:50AM

  Are you saying you don't think anybody can?

9er8er280April 29, 2017 12:03PM

  Re: You missed the premise...

dzrams245April 29, 2017 12:33PM

  Oh!

9er8er296April 29, 2017 12:44PM

  Re: Disappointing!

dzrams203April 29, 2017 01:01PM

  It is

9er8er244April 29, 2017 01:18PM

  Re: It is

dzrams244April 29, 2017 01:49PM

  then a team should never ever trade down.

PHDram276April 29, 2017 12:16PM

  Why's that?

9er8er261April 29, 2017 12:18PM

  Re: Why's that?

PHDram219April 29, 2017 01:01PM

  Re: Why's that?

9er8er438April 29, 2017 01:36PM

  I disagree with the premise that

PHDram246April 29, 2017 01:44PM

  Disagree all you want

9er8er234April 29, 2017 01:47PM

  I didnt. Thanx

PHDram216April 29, 2017 02:04PM

  Re: Why's that?

dzrams252April 29, 2017 01:53PM

  No

9er8er196April 29, 2017 02:07PM

  Re: No...

dzrams257April 29, 2017 02:20PM

  Nope, false

9er8er205April 29, 2017 02:35PM

  Re: How about we agree to disagree?

dzrams218April 29, 2017 02:45PM

  For those puzzled by the Everett pick...

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  Few question the PICK

RFIP388April 29, 2017 11:51AM

  Re: Few question the PICK

Rams43303April 29, 2017 12:02PM

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RFIP249April 29, 2017 04:06PM

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  Re: I'm curious why some here ignore some of the Everett scouting reports

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  Re: For those puzzled by the Everett pick...

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  Re: For those puzzled by the Everett pick...

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  31 other teams say the same thing...

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