January 14, 2017 02:16PM
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with a great resume and skins on the wall?

Great minds generally come off that way.

Mike Martz was the same way.

You gotta be confident and comfortable in your own skin to deal with those types.

That speaks to his overall ability to connect with people.

There are many great minds who don't come off that way.

Many leaders have great minds but are also good at communicating, connecting with people, and not rubbing people the wrong way.

That particular trait can cause problems to the point where people may not want to work with you or follow you.

Mike Martz's career has been hurt because of this.

Thats a good post dz but it wasn't Martz arrogance that hurt him. He was miserable as a HC and had conflict with others.

His arrogance is what made him great as a play caller.

And arrogance is subjective.

You know like treasure and trash.

Ok, I'll give you Martz. Even though I think arrogance can be at the root of why he's had so much conflict.

But agree that it made him a great play caller.

However here, I think the biggest quality teams are looking for is a leader.

Someone who turns you off in an interview with their arrogance should be looked at suspiciously in their ability to connect and ultimately lead people.

That said, it is subjective. Maybe one team hates it and another team sees it as confidence and strength.
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  Shanny arrogant in interviews.

max1072January 14, 2017 01:04PM

  Re: Would that stop someone from getting hired..

laram427January 14, 2017 01:08PM

  And Mike has been without a job a long time

RockRam416January 14, 2017 01:11PM

  Re: Arrogance and conflict are separate issues...

laram365January 14, 2017 01:16PM

  Re: And Mike has been without a job a long time

stlramz439January 14, 2017 01:47PM

  Re:That's extremely "subjective" eh counselor?...NM

laram456January 14, 2017 01:49PM

  Re: Re:That's extremely "subjective" eh counselor?...NM

stlramz315January 14, 2017 02:56PM

  Re: John Harbaugh great example...NM

laram324January 14, 2017 03:00PM

  Re: i tell you what... if you are arrogant like that

Speed_Kills357January 14, 2017 02:31PM

  Martz is a bad example to use...

max308January 14, 2017 01:16PM

  I'd be arrogant too the way atlantas offense looks

stlrams13372January 14, 2017 01:26PM

  Re: yep and that was the word on them in DC

Speed_Kills219January 14, 2017 02:33PM

  well think about it this way

zn302January 14, 2017 01:33PM

  Re: well think about it this way

dodgerram314January 14, 2017 01:35PM

  Re: well think about it this way...edited

laram306January 14, 2017 01:38PM

  Re: well think about it this way...edited

zn295January 14, 2017 06:24PM

  Re: Absolutely!

dzrams296January 14, 2017 02:05PM

  Re: Absolutely!

laram222January 14, 2017 02:09PM

  Re: Absolutely!

dzrams286January 14, 2017 02:16PM

  well that's all in he eyes of the beholder

Hazlet Hacksaw264January 14, 2017 05:16PM

  Hmm . .. well, how would we know?

Blue and Gold321January 14, 2017 01:12PM

  Re: I don't think anyone is dumping on the McVay hiring...NM

laram285January 14, 2017 01:14PM

  Re: Hmm . .. well, how would we know?

Rampage2K-305January 14, 2017 01:45PM

  I guess

Blue and Gold293January 14, 2017 01:50PM

  That's the issue right there IMO

LesBaker295January 14, 2017 02:21PM

  Re: Thats a reasonable take nm

Speed_Kills284January 14, 2017 02:34PM

  Re: last week i was attacked by 1 poster

Speed_Kills318January 14, 2017 02:26PM

  It wasn't me, I know that...

max301January 14, 2017 02:41PM

  Re: Lol nope wasnt you

Speed_Kills356January 14, 2017 02:44PM

  Re: LoL, Allan Pease...NM

laram283January 14, 2017 02:47PM

  LOL. Very Good! nm

max262January 14, 2017 03:02PM

  I said the same

PHDram303January 14, 2017 02:52PM

  Re: I tell you what

Speed_Kills293January 14, 2017 02:58PM

  If that happens he will be the top guy

LesBaker301January 14, 2017 03:05PM

  I agree but

PHDram344January 14, 2017 06:04PM

  Re: Shanny arrogant in interviews.

Classicalwit300January 14, 2017 04:43PM

  It wasn't "interviews" that steered Denver away from him

9er8er290January 14, 2017 05:52PM

  Re: Youre right it was Joseph who they wanted all along...nm

laram291January 14, 2017 06:04PM

  btw, the exact quote was"maybe he comes off arrogant"

Rampage2K-638January 14, 2017 06:31PM