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Re: let's hope not.. Good common sense RamsFanSinceLA

December 23, 2016 04:43PM
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If KS is indeed hired, he will have to get the Rams into the post season party no later than his 3rd year if he wants to see a 4th.

I hope it's not that narrowly dogmatic.

dogmatic? oh my zn you should know me better than that. Again, I will repeat myself for the last time...... I was on board with Fisher remaining the HC for the 2016 season and didn't raise the white flag until the Carolina game.

(with many of the same analytical observations to support your narrow dogmatic rebuttal) I also gave JF more mulligans than a large handful of our Herd posters)... enough was enough no matter how many things went wrong out of JF's control.


The Rams are in Los Angeles now brother. There will not be the same mercy for a new HC like there was for JF.

Let's say Keenum walks, and BOTH Goff and Mannion combined are healthy for only 27 of the next 64 games.

Hypothetical drastic injures? shoot go ahead and combine that with the new HC losing 8 games by one point in his 3rd year...... really? of course there is a perfect scenario for a coach to warrant a 4th year. My statement was about standards for the new HC being met and a sprinkle of common sense.

Nobody is going to convince me that the next HC is going to get the same grace as JF was given.


Do you do the "playoffs or bust" thing if you also like him as a coach? I mean to ME that would be just gratuitously self-destructive.

Yes, I'm pretty confident that 7-8-1, 7-9 and 6-10 will be a bust after 3 seasons and the new HC hired in 2017, will not see a 4th year.

Or add this. Let's say they hire KS, and he's actually a good coach, but this happens.

As I said, you have healthy viable starting caliber qbs (assuming Mannion is that) for only 27 of the next 64 games.

ADD this. In that same span, you have a relatively healthy, relatively experienced, decent OL in only 20 of those games.

And then let's say the overlap between having the OL and having the starting caliber qb is 15 games.

I wouldn't fire the coach because if that situation keeps up, a new coach is going to make no difference whatsoever.

SO if KS is good, wish him the OL and the qb. Cause. If he's good he can win with that. If he's good, and he doesn't have those 2 things combined, he won';t win.

Unless you can give me examples of coaches who DID win under those conditions. I can't think of any.


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I don't mean to speak for Florida_Ram, but I think that one could surmise that his statement assumes a relatively healthy team. I know you're throwing out random scenarios for injuries and if that happened then I agree those are extenuating circumstances and in that case firing him after 3 years might not be prudent. But if the team is relatively healthy in those 3 years I would expect to see a lot of improvement in that time.

You spoke just fine for me RamsFanSinceLA..... thumbs up


Hi FR. It;s hard for me to respond to point by point posts like that because the formatting is a nightmare and they're hard to read when responding. Plus the software is apparently cutting them off I am saying this out of courtesy so you know why I can't/didn't respond.

Anyway near as I can tell, you thought I called YOU dogmatic. Nope. I was referring to whoever would make the decision in 4 years.

That's the best I can do.



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GreatRamNTheSky2635December 22, 2016 08:44PM

  Guess who Kyle Shanahan's Agent is.... not concerned

Anonymous User1194December 23, 2016 01:30AM

  let's hope not

zn484December 23, 2016 04:18AM

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Rams43455December 23, 2016 04:30AM

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zn373December 23, 2016 07:22AM

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RamsFanSinceLA348December 23, 2016 07:00AM

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RamsFanSinceLA788December 23, 2016 07:52AM

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zn423December 23, 2016 05:20PM

  let's hope not.. Good common sense RamsFanSinceLA

Anonymous User351December 23, 2016 01:07PM

  Re: let's hope not.. Good common sense RamsFanSinceLA

zn319December 23, 2016 04:43PM

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sacram314December 23, 2016 10:33AM

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zn298December 23, 2016 10:44AM

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sacram327December 23, 2016 11:04AM

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zn336December 23, 2016 12:11PM

  Re: Guess who Kyle Shanahan's Agent is..................

PaceRam442December 23, 2016 03:41AM

  I'd rather have Josh McDaniels

NewMexicoRam552December 23, 2016 04:17AM

  Re: I'd rather have Josh McDaniels

zn538December 23, 2016 04:28AM

  I didn't say you said that

NewMexicoRam386December 23, 2016 06:52AM

  okay fair enough

zn537December 23, 2016 07:28AM

  You posted the numbers recently

NewMexicoRam340December 23, 2016 08:36AM

  Re: You posted the numbers recently

zn297December 23, 2016 08:38AM

  Well......

NewMexicoRam298December 23, 2016 08:48AM

  agreed

zn270December 23, 2016 09:01AM

  Re: agreed

bigjimram21246December 23, 2016 10:31AM

  Re: I'd rather have Josh McDaniels

PHDram378December 23, 2016 04:32AM

  Hello New M

mexram450December 23, 2016 04:36AM

  Re: I'd rather have Josh McDaniels

bigjimram21341December 23, 2016 06:28AM

  And he'll have Goff

NewMexicoRam315December 23, 2016 06:54AM

  Re: And he'll have Goff

bigjimram21307December 23, 2016 10:35AM

  shanahan has been consistently good as an oc

PHDram440December 23, 2016 07:09AM

  Re: I'd rather have Josh McDaniels

zn333December 23, 2016 07:44AM

  Yet another reason why the Rams need to hire a Ron Wolf type..

PaulButcher59497December 23, 2016 05:57AM

  Re: Yet another reason why the Rams need to hire a Ron Wolf type..

laram465December 23, 2016 06:06AM

  Gruden not interested....

PaulButcher59329December 23, 2016 07:48AM

  Lets just say since Daddy has a HC client....

GreatRamNTheSky491December 23, 2016 07:50AM

  im not sure thats a bad thing

PHDram313December 23, 2016 07:58AM

  Re: im not sure thats a bad thing

PaulButcher59601December 23, 2016 08:48AM

  Re:C'mon man....

laram336December 23, 2016 08:51AM

  That dog hunted 5 years ago with Jeff Fisher! (NM)

PaulButcher59290December 23, 2016 08:53AM

  Re: Not even possible..

laram593December 23, 2016 09:05AM

  Re: Not even possible..

Rampage2K-532December 23, 2016 09:12AM

  Demoff's daddy

PHDram352December 23, 2016 10:00AM

  Re: Demoff's daddy

Rampage2K-310December 23, 2016 01:30PM

  The entire Fisher hiring process was both Kroenke and Demoff

PaulButcher59310December 23, 2016 11:34AM

  Your presentation of the scenario is beyond belief

PHDram324December 23, 2016 12:38PM

  Re: Re:C'mon man....

PHDram311December 23, 2016 09:08AM

  I want Sean Payton...who is his agent? nm

Ram49330December 23, 2016 07:34AM

  i like peyton too

PHDram622December 23, 2016 07:56AM

  Re: Please....No to Peyton !!!

oldschoolramfan333December 23, 2016 08:04AM

  what does your gut tell you? NM

PHDram291December 23, 2016 08:12AM

  Re: what does your gut tell you? NM

oldschoolramfan330December 23, 2016 02:43PM

  as laram would say

ferragamo79304December 23, 2016 07:52AM

  Re: I don't like the path the Rams are going down

Speed_Kills365December 23, 2016 09:53AM

  You give up more quickly than I... :)

JamesJM491December 23, 2016 11:37AM

  Re: This means I haven't given up

Speed_Kills325December 23, 2016 01:00PM

  Re: You give up more quickly than I... :)

LesBaker525December 23, 2016 02:50PM

  It's December...

JamesJM254December 23, 2016 02:59PM