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Titles. Money. Contention.

December 01, 2016 05:56AM
An interesting point.

Money. Winning titles.

They aren't necessarily the same thing. But I do think that, if an owner wants to make money, he needs SUCCESS. You can't make money with a perennially losing team, especially in LA.

UK's point is an apt one. Arsenal of late have frustrated their fans the same way the Rams of the late 60s-early 80s frustrated us. They perennially contend and then come up short. Arsene Wenger perennially fields excellent teams without winning much hardware.

Now, if you're a money-oriented owner, that's fine. There's enough success to fill the Emirates and sustain the global Arsenal brand.

But imagine if Wenger started losing and the Gunners fell out of contention altogether. That would NOT be acceptable, and he'd be gone in a trice.

Which brings me back to Kroenke and Fisher. In a fresh thread, I tried to pose a single question" WHY would anyone think Kroenke finds this year's effort by Fisher acceptable? I don't get that.

SK had a reason to keep Fisher to handle the move. I think it's daft, but clearly Kroenke wanted Fisher to shepherd the team's migration west. And in THAT CONTEXT, winning and losing didn't matter.

But the move is finished. And SK needs to try to make money in notoriously fickle LA. He has GOT to get at least CONTENTION to make money on the Ram brand. He may not care about titles as such. But I cannot imagine him not demanding CONTENTION from his coaches moving forward.

I fully expect him to hire a new HC for next year. I expect him to demand contention. Money concerns demand that.

Now, perhaps we'll get into an Arsenal situation. Perhaps we'll get to contention level and plateau there. I can imagine him being satisfied with, say, an Arsene Wenger/Chuck Knox level of achievement. And I can imagine us becoming frustrated with that.

But that's a long way off. And I cannot imagine Kroenke looking at this year's debacle and finding it acceptable. That makes no sense to me.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  How are things going with Kroenke's other teams?

promomasterj943November 30, 2016 04:26PM

  Is that an indicator?

JamesJM386November 30, 2016 04:38PM

  It's one indicator

LesBaker398November 30, 2016 05:28PM

  Bingo...he's all about $$

Ram49334November 30, 2016 07:41PM

  Arsenal are doing fine

RamUK345December 01, 2016 04:21AM

  He also said he doesn't buy teams to win titles

LesBaker270December 01, 2016 05:34AM

  Titles. Money. Contention.

RFL322December 01, 2016 05:56AM

  I've never been convinced it was the move that made him want Fisher

LesBaker348December 01, 2016 06:14AM

  Tea leaves and tell tails ...

RFL438December 01, 2016 06:42AM

  the move ...

wv ram283December 01, 2016 04:40PM

  Brilliant point

RamUK334December 01, 2016 11:34AM

  UK, good to connect again!

RFL289December 01, 2016 11:49AM

  Re: UK, good to connect again!

RamUK281December 02, 2016 03:22AM

  Not that anyone in the USA gives a crap about his soccer team

LesBaker283December 01, 2016 05:26PM

  Re: Not that anyone in the USA gives a crap about his soccer team

BobCarl359December 01, 2016 06:19PM

  Re: Not that anyone in the USA gives a crap about his soccer team

RamUK369December 03, 2016 08:06AM

  I know an entire stadium was chanting "get out of my club" and that fans don't like him

LesBaker285December 03, 2016 02:27PM

  just a thot

wv ram303December 02, 2016 05:45AM

  I never mentioned Arsenal as I know nothing about EPL

promomasterj306December 01, 2016 01:54PM

  Re: I never mentioned Arsenal as I know nothing about EPL

BobCarl292December 01, 2016 02:30PM

  Zero? Are you sure?

LesBaker284December 01, 2016 02:37PM

  Re: Zero? Are you sure?

BobCarl304December 01, 2016 03:30PM

  Yeah not so much

LesBaker357December 01, 2016 03:52PM

  Re: Yeah not so much

BobCarl374December 01, 2016 04:18PM

  Not taking dividends isn't necessarily not getting paid

LesBaker319December 02, 2016 05:27AM

  Nuggets and Avs play on a network he owns or licenses to

promomasterj288December 02, 2016 10:42AM

  I'm guessing that was sarcasm

LesBaker265December 02, 2016 01:36PM

  Re: Not taking dividends isn't necessarily not getting paid

BobCarl194December 03, 2016 07:44AM

  Kroenke is the devil...everyone knows that.......

Rampage2K-400December 01, 2016 09:01AM

  But Stan is our Devil....

SunTzu_vs_Camus331December 01, 2016 09:31AM

  He can spend as much over the cap in the NBA as he wants to and several owners do

LesBaker370December 01, 2016 02:44PM

  Re: Kroenke is the devil...everyone knows that.......

bigjimram21559December 01, 2016 05:54PM

  Re: How are things going with Kroenke's other teams?

reggae310December 02, 2016 10:44AM