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On Keenum and Goff

September 21, 2016 09:39AM
I heard 2 things from Marcellus Wiley and Eric Davis on radio.

1. When a HC starts pointing to a specific player or position that is noteworthy. When Fisher calls out a player with criticism or false praise that guy's days are numbered. In this case it's Keenum when Fisher talked about not giving him blame or credit. They said the guys in the locker room are thinking the same thing. We should expect Goff soon.

2. Davis said he sat with Kroenke before the draft and told him the Rams should take Wentz cause he was a bigger, stronger, and a winner. He thought Wentz was a better fit for the Rams. He also said he knows why the Rams picked Goff. It's because Goff showed that he can get into the end zone from inside the 30. And that's what they felt they were missing. That's what they valued and wanted the most. I think Davis also said analytics played a role in the Rams evaluation. Apparently Goff had the best analytics.

What was interesting was that these guys, especially Davis since he said he looked closely at the tape twice, did not blame the OL for the Rams offensive problems. They said it was 2 things.

One is that Boras needs to get more creative in getting Gurley in better situations. Defenses aren't fooled by any of the Rams running schemes. Davis said Gurley touched the ball 20 times (I think that was the number) and he had to beat a free defender almost every time one on one almost immediately. Boras has got to do better than that.

And that with Keenum and these receivers, defenses don't respect them going downfield. Just because the Rams hit one or two deeper passes, defenses still don't respect it. They don't believe the Rams can do it consistently enough to beat them. Maybe Cooper will help.

What those ex-players were saying is that teams crowding LOS has less to do with Rams targets, and mostly to do with scheme and QB. Keenum just doesn't have enough ability to threaten teams deep on his own and he limits what Boras can call. I heard them say that teams need 4 games to get a book on a guy in a system and the book is out on Keenum. They also applied that to Gurley in this system. He's had only one 100 yard game in his last 10 games, and the OL is healthy now. As Fisher said it all points to the QB position. When you're seeing 9 in the box on every play, then the QB needs to produce a lot more than what Keenum is producing.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/21/2016 09:41AM by max.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  On Keenum and Goff

max871September 21, 2016 09:39AM

  Oh good, a new topic...

JamesJM421September 21, 2016 09:42AM

  Hey, It's not as bad as the Warner / Bulger post battles!

Ramgator398September 21, 2016 09:45AM

  Wentz would not be as far as long with Rams

Rams_81618September 21, 2016 10:12AM

  Go look

LesBaker397September 21, 2016 10:33AM

  That's true, very slowly...

max391September 21, 2016 11:02AM

  Any crucifixion of Mannion...

JamesJM320September 21, 2016 11:05AM

  Thinking the same, James. What if Mannion played well?

ArizonaRamFan365September 21, 2016 11:11AM

  Good point about Fisher and QB controversies....

max391September 21, 2016 11:14AM

  Can we use the word "schadenfreude" on this board?

JamesJM266September 21, 2016 11:15AM

  Re: Where's Shaky when you need him?

RamsFanSinceLA438September 21, 2016 12:33PM

  Re: Where's Shaky when you need him?

Shaky349September 21, 2016 01:16PM

  Bradford 1st round and 4th round

Rams_81340September 21, 2016 02:09PM

  You mean crucifixion of Fisher...

max353September 21, 2016 11:12AM

  Yes, I did.. thanks for the correction. (nm)

JamesJM310September 21, 2016 11:13AM

  Mannion has not played a down in the NFL

Rams_81323September 21, 2016 02:08PM

  Yes he did.

JamesJM382September 21, 2016 02:13PM

  thank you for correcting me

Rams_81433September 21, 2016 02:43PM

  Re: thank you for correcting me

Rams43341September 21, 2016 02:47PM

  Thank you

Rams_81334September 21, 2016 05:39PM

  keenumania

wv ram409September 21, 2016 10:56AM

  Re: keenumania

max379September 21, 2016 11:09AM

  Goff-Day

wv ram305September 21, 2016 11:21AM

  Re: Goff-Day

JamesJM337September 21, 2016 11:26AM

  Keyshawn Johnson agrees with you...

max526September 21, 2016 11:37AM