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the various articles you posted cover much of what I wanted to talk about but I'll throw my 2 cents in

February 27, 2023 09:37AM
First, the STAR position is becoming one of the most important positions on the defensive side of the ball. In an NFL that sees more passing, 3 LBer sets are becoming a dinosaur. So what replaces the 3rd LBer? The STAR, that is a hybrid slot CB, S, OLB. Very few football players can cover a slot WR, blitz with effectiveness and give support in the run game. Which makes a good STAR rare IMO. Thats why the STAR position is so important to a defense. If you don't have one that can do all 3 of the things I mentioned, your defense will suffer in one of those aspects.

Staley didn't invent the STAR, college has been using it for years, but he did make it a prominent fixture for the Rams and now Chargers. And yes, he saw what Ramsey could do from his college days.

To recap Ramsey's college career:
Freshman: Starting Outside CB & safety (freshman all american)
Sophmore: Spur (FSU's version of the STAR) (all American)
Junior: Outside CB (all american)

So he had proven he can do a little of everything, and do it at a high level. He has the size, speed, physicality and temperment to play the STAR.
It also keeps him close to the action at all times, you put him at OCB, and sure, he may take away one half of the field, he losses the ability to blitz as much and to be more involved in run support. And his run support was second to none this year.

Lastly, if you aren't putting Ramsey in as the STAR, who does it? Rapp can be used in run support and to blitz, but he will struggle covering slot WRs. Fuller might struggle in coverage as well and was injured. Howard can run support and blitz, but his cover skills are lacking. I think Rochell can work there, he has the quicks and speed to run with slot WRs, the length to handle big slot WRs, but would be an unknown in run support and blitzing. Add to that, he comes from a small school and is raw. I think he makes the most sense as a Ramsey replacement.

TL;DR - Ramsey is the rare athlete that can play the star position at a high level, and the STAR position is not given enough credit on this board for being as important a position as it is. And there is no one else that can play the STAR in all 3 phases.



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  Reasonable discussion on Star position--for the willing Attachments

JimYoungblood53457February 27, 2023 07:40AM

  While nothing works perfectly-always tradoffs good and bad Attachments

JimYoungblood53113February 27, 2023 08:29AM

  As with any fair discussion, start with origin Attachments

JimYoungblood5372February 27, 2023 08:49AM

  More on origin from 2020 Attachments

JimYoungblood5380February 27, 2023 08:51AM

  "(W)hat it takes to play the slot in the NFL It ain't simple." Attachments

JimYoungblood5360February 27, 2023 08:54AM

  Again, origins. Attachments

JimYoungblood5365February 27, 2023 08:55AM

  So, when did Jalen start? 2014 you say? Attachments

JimYoungblood5364February 27, 2023 08:55AM

  “We’re going to put him where we feel like it’s best"-Brandon Staley

JimYoungblood5348February 27, 2023 09:10AM

  Ramsey gave up 7 TDs in 2022, only 1 in slot Attachments

JimYoungblood5390February 27, 2023 09:24AM

  Evidence is clear Attachments

JimYoungblood5376February 27, 2023 09:31AM

  Re: Reasonable discussion on Star position--for the willing

ramBRO88February 27, 2023 09:34AM

  Fair question and I don't have answer Attachments

JimYoungblood5363February 27, 2023 10:09AM

  Re: Reasonable discussion on Star position--for the willing

Classicalwit63February 28, 2023 06:18PM

  the various articles you posted cover much of what I wanted to talk about but I'll throw my 2 cents in

Deadpool120February 27, 2023 09:37AM

  All correct

JimYoungblood53121February 27, 2023 09:52AM

  positioning of star relative to shell Attachments

JimYoungblood5369February 27, 2023 11:40AM

  Re: Way over my pay grade, but....

leafnose60February 28, 2023 07:41AM

  Re: Roster candidate to STAR if Ramsey departs

leafnose95February 28, 2023 07:45AM

  Success is important Attachments

JimYoungblood5373February 27, 2023 10:24AM

  Success is important II Attachments

JimYoungblood5363February 27, 2023 10:25AM

  Success is important III Attachments

JimYoungblood5366February 27, 2023 10:29AM

  Success is important IV Attachments

JimYoungblood53145February 27, 2023 10:32AM

  So, all the consternation about this is how it looks? Attachments

JimYoungblood5366February 27, 2023 11:13AM

  Quarters seam trap Attachments

JimYoungblood5358February 27, 2023 11:39AM

  What people say they want Attachments

JimYoungblood5363February 27, 2023 11:55AM

  Jalen Ramsey dishes on 'star' role

JimYoungblood5362February 27, 2023 12:19PM

  Issues with Man and zone

JimYoungblood5369February 27, 2023 01:36PM

  Thanks for these Jim

Ram4life100February 27, 2023 09:46PM

  UR Welcome

JimYoungblood5348February 28, 2023 10:50AM

  Re: Reasonable discussion on Star position--for the willing

Classicalwit57February 28, 2023 06:08PM

  I think that is right, #1 corner on WR2, double team WR1

JimYoungblood53114February 28, 2023 07:10PM

  Re: Reasonable discussion on Star position--for the willing

Classicalwit56February 28, 2023 06:11PM

  3 receiver side is strength, regardless of where TE is Attachments

JimYoungblood5375February 28, 2023 07:12PM

  Re: 3 receiver side is strength, regardless of where TE is

Classicalwit125February 28, 2023 07:27PM