So you provided 2 examples of what is not a starter. Would you care to define what is a starter? Or if you dont want to use starter as the standard...what is a draft "hit" .by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
but that was the metric that zn proposed so i used it. all im saying is that in order to make an unbiased comparison we need to apply the same objective metric across the board. if we start saying this guys a hit because of "reason a" and this guys a hit because of "reason b" the decision rules about what constitutes a "hit" becomes subjective. Plus were not evenby PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
over the time period of 2012-2017 you get the following: Pats = 26/47 (55.3) Rams 32/51 (62.7) ps. still in the league means a player who played in at least one game in 2017 so i guess its possible to miss a guy on ir or something. also i would that the findings are biased toward the team with more draft picks in 2016 and 2017 since those guys are more likely to still be in the year.by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
i must have missed that statement. please accept my apology. so is that a no to the definition of a starter then?by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
i dont quite understand your reluctance to define starter or significant contributor but whatever. in terms of "still in the league" as a metric. i agree with you that its not great, but i used it at your suggestion source: so Im not sure why now you say "To me "still in the league" means nothing" and call it "vague and amorphous".by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
in about 30 seconds i noted how 2 different people can easily define "starter" and "significant contributor" differently so no its not clear whatsoever. moreover to illustrate the point speed calculated a totally different figure than you so its evidently not clear at least as far as you laid you. Quotezn QuotePHDram i still dont know what this means I did normal hit raby PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
yeah i dont know what speed counted as a hit but you use the metric of (still in the league) over the time period of 2012-2017 you get the following: Pats = 26/47 (55.3) Rams 32/51 (62.7) ps. still in the league means a player who played in at least one game in 2017 so i guess its possible to miss a guy on ir or something.by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
NE would hit on 19 of 34 picks (55.9 percent) LAR would hit on 20 of 37 picks (54 percent) The numbers slightly favor NE but there is probably not a statistically significant difference between the teams. In words words the hit rate is about the same . rams: pats:by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
i still dont know what this means I did normal hit rate. Starters, significant contributors. Percentage of starts when on the roster. That kind of thing. starters....when? 2017? all 16 games? ever? significant contributor...this is very subjective. how do you define this? percentage of starts.....ok whats the cut of for a hit? 50 percent?by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
well..assuming you used the measure you proposed below (still in the league) I counted 19 of 34 picks (55.9 percent) still in the league which is closer to speeds calculations then the number you proposed. using the same metric the rams "hit" on 20 of 37 picks (54 percent) which slightly favors NE but there is probably not a statistically significant difference between the teams.by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
This seems significantly different then speeds calculations.by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
So the Pats hit on 59.6 percent of there picks? The rams hit on 47 percent? Is that accurate? If so it would suggest that the pats drafted better then the rams during the time frame.by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
What guys have you watched that you feel are standout pros?by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
nevertheless it would be interesting. personally i would choose the patriots just because everyone thinks Belichick is so brilliant. your point is well taken in that higher picks should have higher hit rates. however if thats not true, is that a bad thing? im not sure. i could see some argue that its a sign of good scouting. maybe the more important thing is to get a "hit" regarby PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
those numbers may be facts (i didnt check im assuming you are correct) but do we know where his performance ranks compared to other GMs. I really dont know. This could be better, worse or about the same as other guys tasked with the same job. QuoteSpeedball89 Just stating the facts. And it's not 6 years later. 3 guys are left from 6 years ago. 7 of those misses were rd 1-3 with 5 if them beby PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
you need to compare it to something...like the record of other GMs.by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
if you mean curtic mikell, no considering the they appear to play different positions that being said Laquvionte Gonzalez reported ran a 4.36 and actually is a wr so maybe.by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
Porter Gustin from usc?by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
which picks were those? also, the rams didnt pick until 87. what were you expecting? a class of future all pros? that being said, i expect noteboom (perhaps not at lt), allen, kiser and maybe obo to eventually start.by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
if im tavon id be happy sitting on the bench collecting an nfl paycheck in stead of an afl paycheck. the nfl ones tend to have more zeros at the end.by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
i think we have hit our quota for eastern washington players. How many can 1 team have?by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
that are intriguing and may steal a roster spot. LaQuvionte Gonzalez appears to be super fast. it doesnt seem impossible for him to win the 6th spot. Codey Mcelroy has the size and athleticism that mcvay likes in a te (6-6, 250; 4.69-second 40). He could win the 4th spot or get stashed ont he practice squad. Is travin Howard a safety or a lb? great speed for a lb, but less then averageby PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
I may be wrong about this but didn't Blythe play guard in the final game against the niners? My point is that hes not a center only guy. Hes a versatile inside player even if not a future starter.by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com
If hes just a good solid pro I think that's a success.by PHDram - RamsFootballFans.com