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Re: You either have one or you dont....I agree...

May 14, 2019 07:38PM
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PHDram
Not sure on Cousins but I am sure that Goff is good enough to at least get to the super bowl as he has obviously done it as a third year pro. I think I'm willing to take my chances that he will continue to develop to the point where he can win one as opposed to desperately searching for the next greatest qb of all time. To add to that it may be I'm projecting my own thoughts here but appears to me that both the coaches and teammates are behind him. In fact I dont think mcvay even takes the job if he doesnt believe in Goff.

That being said 30 million is alot of money and to be quite honest I dont know that any single athlete is "worth" that type of money but unfortunately that is the price you need to pay for a young qb of his caliber and his tract record. And imo you either have a qb or you dont. We saw life without one for 20 years between Warner and Goff. I dont want to go back there. Unless he bottoms out like Bortles or Carr I'm paying Goff the fair market value. Plenty of other teams do it so can we.

In terms of drafting a qb...I realize the rams can go that way but there are 3 big problems. 1. We are good enough now that we are drafting in the latter half making it difficult to get a good one and trading up squandered draft capital. 2. Will the guy you trade up for be better than the guy you have. If hes a slam dunk no one will trade the pick. 3. Waiting 1 or 2 or 3 years who knows how long really is wasting the prime years of guys like AD Gurley and Cooks.




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PHDram
The Redskins are in now at qb. First they spent a ton on cousins anyway to only delay the inevitable. Now they are paying Smith a ton of money and he may never play a down again. That forced them to trade for good ol CK AND spend draft capital on another qb who may or may not be any good. Plus they haven't even sniffed the post season. Doesnt seem like a good way to go to me.

Fair points. But is it much better if you pay $30M+ for a QB that’s really not worth it?

Maybe the jury is still out on this, but is Cousins a good enough QB to win a Super Bowl? If the answer is no, I’d take my chances on not paying the QB and trying to find one in the draft.

Washington’s problem may be that they keep trying to go the vet QB route. Bite bullet and draft one. And suck for a year if necessary.

I'm a big believer in Goff....I was just pointing out what the Rams options are if they aren't as big of a believer.

If they think he's just not a SB caliber QB, the worst thing they can do is pay him a ton of money. All the difficulties in drafting a QB you list are all true.

But the flip side of a paying a mediocre vet QB a huge salary because you're scared to not have a QB is worse IMO.

Matt Stafford, Derrick Carr, Alex Smith, and Joe Flacco are all examples of QBs getting huge checks that are not good enough to lead a team to a championship IMO. Those teams have an average QB AND a crippling contract.

Rams fans were rejoicing earlier this offseason that Seattle is now saddled with a crippling contract in Russel Wilson. Having a salary that large is a burden but if you're gonna have a crippling contract, at least be a great player.

Jax was smart to cut bait with Bortles. Some advocated giving him a big QB 2nd contract money but don't do it if the guy isn't worthy. And if it's borderline, go the franchise tag route for a year or two.
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CeeZar102May 14, 2019 05:05AM

  none need to be done now

LMU9389May 14, 2019 05:32AM

  disagree

PHDram85May 14, 2019 05:52AM

  Re: disagree

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  Re: disagree

PHDram61May 14, 2019 07:04AM

  Re: disagree

Ramboni41May 14, 2019 02:50PM

  I could see extending Littleton now

LMU9366May 14, 2019 07:49AM

  Re: I could see extending Littleton now

PHDram53May 14, 2019 08:12AM

  Re: I could see extending Littleton now

Rams4350May 14, 2019 09:01AM

  Re: none need to be done now

zn59May 14, 2019 09:58AM

  brockers

PHDram69May 14, 2019 05:50AM

  They can save cap space this year by resigning Brockers

David Deacon44May 14, 2019 11:11AM

  Re: They can save cap space this year by resigning Brockers

PHDram38May 14, 2019 11:29AM

  I would sign Goff today

LBRamsFan62May 14, 2019 09:09AM

  If we could do it for less than $30 million annually...

jemach59May 14, 2019 09:35AM

  Like against NO? (nm)

LBRamsFan34May 14, 2019 09:37AM

  You mean when we were once again stopped...

jemach51May 14, 2019 09:42AM

  Re: You mean when we were once again stopped...

LBRamsFan51May 14, 2019 09:47AM

  Re: You mean Goff............

oldschoolramfan44May 14, 2019 09:59AM

  there is no "less than" on 2nd contracts

zn56May 14, 2019 10:04AM

  I expected you to respond...

jemach48May 14, 2019 10:09AM

  Re: I expected you to respond...

zn57May 14, 2019 10:12AM

  I like the way you explain this

snowman38May 14, 2019 10:27AM

  oh good

PHDram35May 14, 2019 10:43AM

  Re: This is an option...

dzrams36May 14, 2019 01:38PM

  And look at the predicament

PHDram26May 14, 2019 02:01PM

  Re: And look at the predicament

dzrams28May 14, 2019 02:23PM

  You either have one or you dont

PHDram31May 14, 2019 05:34PM

  Re: You either have one or you dont....I agree...

dzrams37May 14, 2019 07:38PM

  Re: You either have one or you dont....I agree...

PHDram26May 15, 2019 06:21AM

  Re: This is an option...

zn41May 14, 2019 06:58PM

  Re: This is an option...

dzrams36May 14, 2019 07:48PM

  Re: This is an option...

zn41May 14, 2019 08:00PM

  ya know, zn...you've spent a lot of posts on this topic....

SunTzu_vs_Camus41May 15, 2019 01:39AM

  Re: ya know, zn...you've spent a lot of posts on this topic....

zn37May 15, 2019 04:38AM

  Re: there is no "less than" on 2nd contracts

bigjimram2122May 14, 2019 10:36AM

  Re: I do NOT extend Goff....

spagsbacker73May 14, 2019 10:13AM

  Re: I do NOT extend Goff....

bigjimram2146May 14, 2019 10:40AM

  as quarterbacks do not grow on trees

PHDram42May 14, 2019 11:26AM

  Re: I sign Bortles as well................No doubt!

oldschoolramfan42May 14, 2019 11:36AM

  sure

PHDram41May 14, 2019 12:13PM

  Re: sure

dzrams33May 15, 2019 05:07AM

  Re: beat me to it....

spagsbacker49May 14, 2019 12:20PM

  What on earth

PHDram46May 14, 2019 12:36PM

  Re: I love Goff as our QB..........

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bigjimram2129May 15, 2019 11:18AM

  Being successful in less than ideal situations

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