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Martz on McVay: "excuse me while I puke"

August 22, 2017 02:37AM
Can this really be true?...

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Martz spent most of his NFL career working with veteran quarterbacks. His production with Kurt Warner and the Rams offered one of the NFL's most prolific offenses in a Super Bowl championship season (1999), where the Rams scored 529 points.

He worked most with veteran quarterbacks, but was exposed to rookie ones as well. "You have the one-year wonders who light it up and the next year guys adjust to them and they do not adjust," Martz said.

"You've got guys who just aren't very tough, just not competitive enough, who don't understand that the great ones don't say no— they find a way. And then you've got what is probably the worst coached position in sports. Not enough of these coaches are clear. If you have a rookie franchise quarterback, each situation is different. It's difficult to measure if he should sit or play. You've got to get a feel for the quarterback. You've got to know what's around him. It is a decision to make considering many factors."


Martz lives in San Diego. He said he received a call from representatives of both Jared Goff and Carson Wentz to work with them before the 2016 draft. So, Martz met both quarterbacks three months before the draft on an Orange County football field.

"I didn't see anything wrong with them. They were both terrific prospects. I told them I hope and pray they go someplace where they develop quarterbacks."

In Martz's estimation, Goff did not while Wentz did.

You have a high-value guy like that and he went to the worst offensive place, the Rams.
"Jared Goff?" asked Martz. "I don't know if he can play or not, but I do know he couldn't have gone to a worse place. If you took him and switched him with Dak Prescott in Dallas, who knows what would have happened for Goff there. Goff at Cal came from an offense where they ran as many plays as they could—fast. Jared in college did an amazing job of throwing a true ball off balance, under duress, making things happen. You knew the speed of the NFL would throw that kind of timing off. But he still throws a true ball. The Rams wanted to re-wire him to what? I watched the Rams offense last season. It was awful football. There was nobody there on that staff that could teach him, develop him. You have a high-value guy like that and he went to the worst offensive place, the Rams."

The Rams 2016 season top offensive coaches were assistant head coach/offense Rob Boras and quarterbacks coach Chris Weinke.

Martz was asked if he believed new Rams head coach Sean McVay can make a difference for Goff.

"What is he, a couple of months older than Jared? They hired a buddy for Jared. The NFL has nothing to do with being the friend or the buddy of the quarterback. You've got to coach them and work them hard with respect. But buddy? And this guy is a quarterback expert? An offensive expert? Wait a minute while I puke. Right, he's going to be able to teach and handle and guide Jared through tough times because of all of his expertise and knowledge? Right. I'm not going to drink that Kool-Aid."


Martz said he does not know much about Philadelphia's offensive staff, but he does know it consists of Frank Reich, a former long-time NFL quarterback, and others with textured offensive backgrounds.

Martz is especially high on Wentz.

"Wentz ran a pro-type offense at his school and was ahead of the curve in that respect. I've never seen any young quarterback work out like Wentz did in my time with him. I saw Peyton Manning work out coming out of college. Wentz was just ridic- ulous, the arm strength, the overall arm. I mean, both guys are 1-2 in the draft, so, you could flip them around all day and you still have talent either way. Let's see what happens."

That is an apt refrain for all future NFL rookie franchise quarterbacks.



~ max ~
“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/22/2017 02:38AM by max.
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  Martz on McVay: "excuse me while I puke"

max1421August 22, 2017 02:37AM

  Man doesnt hold back does he?

Hazlet Hacksaw596August 22, 2017 02:48AM

  That stood out didn't it... the 'buddy' thing...

JamesJM856August 22, 2017 05:42AM

  Re: That stood out didn't it... the 'buddy' thing...

zn422August 24, 2017 05:46AM

  yup, I certainly do not...

JamesJM286August 24, 2017 06:14AM

  No surprise here

RFIP581August 22, 2017 02:54AM

  Martz was a great OC under the right circumstances

max360August 22, 2017 03:05AM

  Re: Martz was a great OC under the right circumstances

The_Bad_Guy224August 22, 2017 10:14AM

  Disagree about last year

moklerman352August 22, 2017 03:07AM

  Re: Disagree about last year

max263August 22, 2017 03:15AM

  doesnt sound like martz

wv ram290August 22, 2017 03:13AM

  He's nuts, wv

max357August 22, 2017 03:16AM

  Re: He's nuts, wv

RAMSINCE ARNETT242August 22, 2017 07:05AM

  I got to know ...

The_Bad_Guy311August 22, 2017 10:04AM

  Re: Sounds personal

Speed_Kills361August 22, 2017 03:16AM

  there are times, especially now.....

21Dog337August 22, 2017 03:19AM

  Yep, I bet he's great at Jeopardy

RFIP325August 22, 2017 03:31AM

  yes both these things are true

zn405August 22, 2017 03:44AM

  That's seems obvious to me.

max249August 22, 2017 04:16AM

  Re: I did not see him at Kurt's induction

Speed_Kills231August 22, 2017 05:19AM

  This may or may NOT be a real report but regardless.....

Ramgator375August 22, 2017 03:39AM

  Re: Martz on McVay: "excuse me while I puke"

stlramz330August 22, 2017 05:16AM

  I believe the quotes

RFIP314August 22, 2017 05:19AM

  Re: Martz on McVay: "excuse me while I puke"

zn279August 22, 2017 05:20AM

  Re: well when I say something is off

Speed_Kills416August 22, 2017 05:46AM

  I think Martz being an egotist of high order is...

JamesJM236August 22, 2017 05:55AM

  Re: Martz on McVay: "excuse me while I puke"

stlramz250August 22, 2017 09:56AM

  Re: yeah something seems off

Speed_Kills208August 22, 2017 05:22AM

  Re: Martz on McVay: "excuse me while I puke"

laram479August 22, 2017 05:23AM

  Re: Martz on McVay: "excuse me while I puke"

tonyde305August 22, 2017 05:52AM

  Re: Martz on McVay: "excuse me while I puke"

MamaRAMa244August 22, 2017 06:57AM

  Re: Martz on McVay: "excuse me while I puke"

Rams43400August 22, 2017 06:23AM

  Well, maybe that's it.

Saguaro373August 22, 2017 06:50AM

  Re: Martz on McVay: "excuse me while I puke"

stlramz249August 22, 2017 08:17PM

  Re: Counselor that dance card is full, lol...NM

laram359August 23, 2017 10:56AM

  IF this is really accurate, it is mostly a knock on McVay's age

RockRam265August 22, 2017 05:19AM

  Obviously ...

The_Bad_Guy253August 22, 2017 05:55AM

  Re: You wonder why Martz does not have a job......

oldschoolramfan244August 22, 2017 06:11AM

  Actually no, I don't....

JamesJM347August 22, 2017 06:21AM

  sounds fake to me

LMU93238August 22, 2017 06:22AM

  Re: Could be true

GarlicExile491August 22, 2017 06:33AM

  Martz Madness !!!

SunTzu_vs_Camus251August 22, 2017 06:34AM

  Ya think?

JamesJM204August 22, 2017 06:39AM

  most great military generals...need a war....

SunTzu_vs_Camus243August 22, 2017 07:05AM

  Re: Martz Madness !!!

RamsFanSinceLA247August 23, 2017 09:28AM

  Honestly? QBs are football players too (don't ask Flip that! lol)

SunTzu_vs_Camus223August 23, 2017 10:53AM

  Re: LOL - good retort Sun

RamsFanSinceLA224August 23, 2017 12:10PM

  Re: Martz was on ESPNLA so you can hear his own words...NM

laram250August 22, 2017 06:43AM

  CLASSLESS if true

joram353August 22, 2017 06:46AM

  Re: Thats when I knew there had to be some bitterness

Speed_Kills424August 22, 2017 07:26AM

  Bitter and distanced

Hazlet Hacksaw242August 22, 2017 07:59AM

  Martz on Goff from before the 2016 draft

zn387August 22, 2017 06:46AM

  Re: yup

Speed_Kills417August 22, 2017 07:39AM

  to be fair

zn524August 22, 2017 07:42AM

  Re: the throw he made vs Washington was insane

merlin450August 22, 2017 11:05AM

  Grumpy Old Man 2017- starring Mike Martz

Rampage2K-266August 22, 2017 06:54AM

  He is a "Very Mad Scientist"

fullcurl312August 22, 2017 12:30PM

  I am the biggest Martz fan but he missed

Rams_81320August 22, 2017 05:17PM

  How could it have been worst?...lol..nm

Arkansas Ram207August 24, 2017 05:39PM

  if I start blogging about Martz I will be banned

Los Angeles Lenny321August 22, 2017 07:27PM

  Well...I'm not hurt over the comments...

jemach291August 23, 2017 03:14PM

  Love Martz but he stunk in this area

Rams_81225August 24, 2017 05:37AM