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Re: So many reasons for optimism, huh?

April 17, 2018 09:01PM
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dzrams
I appreciate the optimism, 43!

I too think we have far fewer holes this year than I recall in recent memory. Feels good....

If they get an OLB or two and some OL depth, I'll feel they hit a home run this off season.

Personally, I have little concern about the LB'er situation.

I expect them to add some pieces in the draft but I think the LB corp as is, is no worse than last year.

It actually may be better b/c last year's backups in Ebukam and Longacre were arguably better than Barwin and Quinn.

At any rate, the LB corp is the worst positional unit but that was also true last year. An addition or two and we're set.

I share your take on our LB situation, dz.

I just watched the Ram-Titans game and I’ve gotta tell ya that Quinn played poorly, indeed. Including 2 costly penalties, I might add. Won’t be all that hard to replace.

Barwin wasn’t impressive either, tbh.

I’m optimistic that fresh faces at LB could execute Wade’s schemes significantly better.

Agree on Barwin. He wasn't impressive, none of the LB were in reality.

My rationale in simple terms: The LB'ers sucked last year, they will probably suck this year, the backups were objectively just as good as the starters in 2017.

I figured I should back up my take with some objective data...

Longacre vs. Quinn

Longacre got 5.5 sacks in 379 snaps for a 1.45% sack rate.

Quinn got 8.5 sacks in 631 snaps for a 1.35% sack rate. The first 10 weeks of the season, it was a miserable .67% sack rate. His four game late season explosion made his final numbers respectable but he wasn't consistent throughout the year.

At his rate if Longacre is the starter, he's very close to a 10 sack guy. Not bad for a guy that lacks athleticism and is supposedly only backup material.

When you look at the number of tackles per snap, Longacre was again the more productive player.

Bottomline: By objective data, Longacre was the consistently better player throughout the year against the run and pass.

Ebukam vs. Barwin

Ebukam got 2 sacks in 351 snaps for a .56% sack rate.

Barwin got 5 sacks in 656 snaps for a .76% sack rate.

Barwin was better than the rookie but neither player excelled in garnering sacks. The hope for Ebukam is based on his raw talent and elite athleticism.

In the tackles per snap category, Ebukam was far better than Barwin and he had a forced fumble to none for Barwin.

IMO, the clear reason the Rams didn't bring Barwin, AO, and Quinn back (for two of them didn't just let them walk in free agency but actively traded them) was because they feel they already had replacement players on the team who could at least match their production with a fraction of the cost.
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  So many reasons for optimism, huh?

Rams43906April 17, 2018 07:03AM

  Re: So many reasons for optimism, huh?

Ramsdude189April 17, 2018 07:28AM

  Amen 43

David Deacon181April 17, 2018 09:15AM

  Great post, 43! Thx. You and David Deacon covered it. nm.

Saguaro134April 17, 2018 10:31AM

  +1.....nm

Arkansas Ram106April 17, 2018 11:06AM

  Re: 43 you say this every year

Speed_Kills180April 17, 2018 11:13AM

  Copy paste each year!

jemach168April 19, 2018 04:31PM

  Re: Copy paste each year!

dzrams113April 19, 2018 05:40PM

  Re: So many reasons for optimism, huh?

Ramsdude161April 17, 2018 12:48PM

  Love the + Vibe 43 nm

Ram Fan Teacher131April 17, 2018 01:37PM

  Re: So many reasons for optimism, huh?

dzrams133April 17, 2018 02:13PM

  Re: So many reasons for optimism, huh?

Rams43136April 17, 2018 06:15PM

  Ridiculousness Attachments

Blue and Gold237April 17, 2018 07:12PM

  Re: Ridiculousness

Rams43152April 17, 2018 07:40PM

  Re: Agree with B&G here

Speed_Kills136April 18, 2018 02:46AM

  he was

zn136April 18, 2018 06:07AM

  Re: he was

Rams43137April 18, 2018 06:13AM

  Re: You are alway so quick

Speed_Kills125April 18, 2018 07:35AM

  Re: You are alway so quick

Rams43124April 18, 2018 07:44AM

  Re: Sooo

Speed_Kills325April 18, 2018 08:40AM

  Re: Sooo

Rams43148April 18, 2018 09:05AM

  Re: I don’t find it so strange

Speed_Kills151April 18, 2018 09:15AM

  Re: Partial disagreement...

dzrams149April 18, 2018 07:49AM

  Re: Partial disagreement...

Speed_Kills119April 18, 2018 08:53AM

  Longacre is a JAG

Blue and Gold175April 18, 2018 10:23AM

  Re: So many reasons for optimism, huh?

dzrams151April 17, 2018 09:01PM

  So this is all about sacks?

jemach135April 18, 2018 01:48AM

  I would think after last year...

Saguaro175April 18, 2018 05:16AM

  Re: So this is all about sacks?

zn157April 18, 2018 05:18AM

  Re: Who said this is all about sacks?

dzrams128April 18, 2018 07:44AM

  4.7 yards a carry run defense, 30th in NFL

Blue and Gold288April 18, 2018 10:34AM

  Re: So this is all about sacks?

zn125April 19, 2018 08:14PM

  yup, and run stuffing LBs...2 Down run defenders...

SunTzu_vs_Camus159April 20, 2018 02:47AM

  Re: yup, and run stuffing LBs...2 Down run defenders...

zn115April 20, 2018 05:13AM

  Re: Now this I get

Speed_Kills127April 18, 2018 02:54AM

  Re: Wow 43

Speed_Kills349April 18, 2018 02:44AM

  Re: Wow 43

Rams43135April 18, 2018 06:01AM

  Re: Wow 43

Ramsdude127April 18, 2018 06:28AM

  I don't have much to say about the 2018 season.. Rams43

Anonymous User233April 17, 2018 02:52PM

  Re: I don't have much to say about the 2018 season.. Rams43

Ramsdude154April 17, 2018 02:53PM

  Anyone else think it's funny we have an away game vs the Chargers!?!

SunTzu_vs_Camus136April 18, 2018 06:05AM

  That analogy at the end scares me...

jemach146April 17, 2018 03:04PM

  Re: So many reasons for optimism, huh?

illini_ram337April 20, 2018 02:36AM

  Re: So many reasons for optimism, huh?

zn120April 20, 2018 04:13AM