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Re: Yes...this is Contracts 101

August 30, 2017 09:01AM
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You signed the contract, now play it OUT!!

I've always wondered why people don't apply this rationale to teams when they cut a player.

I've never heard anyone say, "That's not fair to the player. The team signed a contract, they should play it out!!!"

Its called a CBA.

IF you don't like something go through the proper channels and change it.

The rules as they stand today are what they are and you agreed to them.

YOU have a contract...honor it!!

I've said all along the should TRADE HIM!

TRADE HIM!!

There are 2 contracts involved.

The CBA is a contract. The individual contract they sign with their team is another contract.

Contract law is contract law buddy. In regard to the contract with the team, there are no higher requirements for players than there are for the other party in the contract.

The teams break those contracts at their whim. They do it when it's not beneficial to them anymore.

When a player does the same thing, it's literally the same thing teams are doing.

It's hypocritical for fans to be mad an one and not the other.

Teams do what they do because they're allowed to in the CBA.

Individual contracts have to pass mustard with the CBA.

Sorry sir.

I've read a huge chunk of the CBA and work in contract law. So of course I know that...

The CBA is a contract that governs what the individual contract between player and team can contain.

Being a contract, there are rights and duties for all parties – all players and all teams.

The contract between player and team is an entirely separate contract governed by provisions in the CBA.

Being a contract, there are rights and duties in that contract too for all parties – player and team.

There is absolutely nothing in the CBA that says a team can cut a player whenever they want to. It doesn’t have to be said because it’s all governed by contract law.

Which means that either party can break a contract at any time; they just have to pay the consequences written into the agreement.

But from a contractual and ethical standpoint, Donald has no more obligations to abide by his contract with the Rams than the Rams do to uphold their promises to him.

The only difference is, Donald has more consequences writing into the language of the CBA that penalizes him if he doesn’t perform.

His willingness to suffer those consequences is no different than a team who decides to cut a player early when they still owe them guaranteed money. In both cases, the party that is breaking the contract is willing to do so despite the consequences.

The ethical obligations are always the same for all parties in a contract.

Sorry sir!
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Do the Rams need Aaron Donald?

napoli1027August 30, 2017 06:34AM

  Have to agree

TonyHunter87407August 30, 2017 06:55AM

  I say let AD stew for while

GreatRamNTheSky367August 30, 2017 12:31PM

  I'll ask it again: has Suh elevated either team he's played for?

RockRam375August 30, 2017 07:00AM

  Re: Bad question...

dzrams407August 30, 2017 07:03AM

  You just made my arguement for me.

RockRam409August 30, 2017 08:44AM

  Re: Uh, yeah they do...

dzrams643August 30, 2017 07:00AM

  Re: Players have rights...

laram431August 30, 2017 07:04AM

  Re: Incomplete analysis sir...

dzrams341August 30, 2017 07:14AM

  Re:Nope...

laram344August 30, 2017 08:46AM

  Re: Yes...this is Contracts 101

dzrams402August 30, 2017 09:01AM

  Re: Ok if you do contract law I will defer to you...

laram326August 30, 2017 09:06AM

  Re: Ok if you do contract law I will defer to you...

dzrams315August 30, 2017 01:14PM

  Re: Yes we do...

laram311August 30, 2017 01:19PM

  Re: Yes...this is Contracts 101

Rams43322August 30, 2017 09:11AM

  Re: You're welcome 43

dzrams304August 30, 2017 10:45AM

  This is incorrect

9er8er336August 30, 2017 06:28PM

  In fact, an accurate comparison

9er8er311August 30, 2017 06:43PM

  Re: This is incorrect

TonyHunter87290August 31, 2017 08:38AM

  Re: This is incorrect

Rams43301August 31, 2017 10:56AM

  Re: This is incorrect

TonyHunter87262August 31, 2017 11:10AM

  Re: Re:Nope...

socalmab368August 30, 2017 06:28PM

  It is not breaking a contract to cut a player.

RockRam327August 30, 2017 12:25PM

  Re: Uh, yeah they do...

Rampage2K-383August 30, 2017 08:56AM

  Re: Uh, yeah they do...

stlramz294August 31, 2017 10:40AM

  IMO....yes they do.

DaJudge326August 30, 2017 07:04AM

  and they're not going to

zn383August 30, 2017 07:08AM

  Re: and they're not going to

NorCalRamFan403August 30, 2017 07:17AM

  Re: and they're not going to

zn298August 30, 2017 07:58AM

  Re: and they're not going to

max302August 30, 2017 08:07AM

  Re: I say go ahead and give him the 3rd year opt out

Speed_Kills333August 30, 2017 08:11AM

  Re: Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

dzrams407August 30, 2017 08:33AM

  Re: That's making a HUGE assumption...

laram331August 30, 2017 08:38AM

  Re: so basically he wants the entire contract guaranteed? (nm)

dzrams334August 30, 2017 08:47AM

  Re: Maybe or maybe not...

laram288August 30, 2017 08:59AM

  Re: Maybe or maybe not...

bigjimram21266August 31, 2017 08:37AM

  Re: and they're not going to

NorCalRamFan302August 30, 2017 08:59AM

  Re: The Rams need him until they don't

Speed_Kills332August 30, 2017 07:55AM

  Question

RFIP458August 30, 2017 08:03AM

  Re:I'll answer that..

laram398August 30, 2017 08:08AM

  Do you condone what AD is doing?

Hazlet Hacksaw271August 30, 2017 08:13AM

  Re: Re:I'll answer that..

RFIP393August 30, 2017 09:32AM

  Re: Re:I'll answer that..

Rampage2K-302August 30, 2017 09:40AM

  Re: Re:I'll answer that..

RounderRick329August 30, 2017 10:52AM

  Wondering if he wants to be a Steeler

Ram49329August 30, 2017 08:28AM

  Re: Wondering if he wants to be a Steeler

bigjimram21304August 31, 2017 08:43AM

  Re: Do the Rams need Aaron Donald?

snowman355August 30, 2017 08:28AM

  The Rams were 4-12 in 2016 with AD

six2stack302August 30, 2017 08:57AM

  football is different IMHO

ferragamo79290August 30, 2017 09:40AM

  Re: +1...NM

laram328August 30, 2017 09:41AM

  Whats you talkin' about Willis?

RamUK257August 31, 2017 11:47AM

  If I see another one of these threads I think I'm going to go bananas nm

rambleon304August 30, 2017 09:49AM

  Pay the Man!!!!

Ramadune329August 30, 2017 12:26PM

  Sigh. Yes.

rambleon324August 31, 2017 09:31AM

  Re: Sigh. Yes.

RamsFanSinceLA292August 31, 2017 10:09AM

  Re: Sigh. Yes.

Rams43446August 31, 2017 11:03AM

  Hence my original comment about going bananas nm

rambleon290August 31, 2017 01:20PM

  Re: Do the Rams need Aaron Donald?

VANRAM365August 30, 2017 12:10PM

  Re: Do the Rams need Aaron Donald?

reggae342August 30, 2017 05:21PM