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August 14, 2017 09:37AM
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Classicalwit
That's what happens when you miss top 10 draft picks and construct the unit primarily from cast offs, aging players, and journeymen.

I am not one to judge an OL prospect by his draft pedigree.

The GSOT OL did have Pace, and they did spend big $$$ in free agency on Timmerman (a 7th round pick btw).

But that line would not have been good if they didn't fill it out with Nutten, Gruttadauria, McCollum (who all fit your definition of castoffs) and also Miller (5th round pick).

The last time the Rams OL was in good shape---not too injured up (all OLs have injuries but if it's too many they lose effectiveness) and not too young (the 2015/2016 OLs were very inexperienced)---was in this window: the 2nd half of 2012, and most of 2013.

The first half of 2012 they were in typical Rams OL injury hades. But when the starters returned, they were fine, by any measure. Jacksons's YPC went up, sacks went down, they played teams like SF tough in their superbowl year, and so on. In 2013 fwiw PFF ranked them 13th in the league.

The 2012 and 2013 lines were not entirely the same but that doesn't matter. That line included a lot of cast offs (Williams, Smith, Barksdale, Richardson). It included veteran free agents, neither one of which could be considered "aging" (there are to this day starting LOTs in the league who were drafted in Long's year, 2008 and before. Actually Sullivan was drafted the same year as Long, and Whitworth was drafted 2 years previous.)

Guys like Richardson could be considered a journeyman but then he never played as well in his career as he did for Boudreau in 2012. That actually was very common. The Rams played a number of guys who had never done as well before and then never did as well again either after they left the Rams. (Turner, Williams, Smith, Richardson). There's also Barksdale but he did as well after the Rams so he did not fit the pattern.

Yes lines have been built that way in the league. In fact it's one of the common ways to build lines. Something about OL coaching allows you to take a young ronin who hasn't caught on yet, but he fits your system and develops and you get a unit with some guys like that woven into the starting 5. Happens all the time.

There's some complaints we could weave in there (Robinson) but it wasn;'t all bad by any means. And when Rams OLs WERE bad the absolute primary cause was injuries (and I mean extensive, unit threatening injuries) and also inexperience (2015/2016). Sometimes both (2015)



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/14/2017 09:39AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  O line is now THE problem with this team!

Ramgator912August 12, 2017 07:51PM

  Has been for quite some time Gator

TonyHunter87490August 12, 2017 10:47PM

  It was one of several holes but now, it's the main problem.

Ramgator422August 13, 2017 01:42PM

  Change for oline.

RounderRick227August 13, 2017 03:39PM

  The O line always was THE problem with this team!

Classicalwit254August 13, 2017 03:19AM

  not for some of us

21Dog384August 13, 2017 04:27AM

  Yup...

max239August 13, 2017 04:42AM

  I am not sure they were horrible last night after all

GreatRamNTheSky243August 13, 2017 04:47AM

  Mannion was in with scrubs playing against scrubs

max256August 13, 2017 04:51AM

  Then the Cowboys scrubs really stink

GreatRamNTheSky228August 13, 2017 05:00AM

  I have caught hell when I say....

Ramgator168August 14, 2017 08:44AM

  beg to differ

zn298August 14, 2017 09:37AM

  It's always been....

PaulButcher59395August 13, 2017 04:23AM

  Re: It's always been....

Rams43237August 13, 2017 05:04AM

  Starting five on the O-line is fine. Its the depth I'm concerned with nm

GreatRamNTheSky264August 13, 2017 04:44AM

  Re: the starters on the RT did not look fine

Speed_Kills249August 13, 2017 04:53AM

  Re: O line is now THE problem with this team!

CarolinaRam300August 13, 2017 05:00AM

  Re: O line is now THE problem with this team!

Rams43303August 13, 2017 05:12AM

  Brown looked horrible - Pace Murphy YIIIIKES!

ferragamo79373August 13, 2017 05:57AM

  I don't think so.

RockRam201August 14, 2017 03:39AM

  the starters played like 8 snaps.......pump the brakes.

Rampage2K-192August 14, 2017 08:43AM