and has good hands. .. Greg Cosell had good writeup If Rams coot get Turner or even Verse ... maybe they can get Chip with a slight trade down. I don't know if they are even looking at him, but there are some things, as they say, you cannot teach and he has those and an ethic to learn things he needs to do.by JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejoram And hopefully shula uses him purely on the line They signed Hoecht for this year, but hopefully they draft someone who can upgrade his position. But no matter who plays there, they will have to cover. Hoecht was a guy filling in for a defense that had little talent. And that had issues at CB. All that plays into it. So, if Rams draft a rookie edge---and he's not good right awayby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteFlorida_Ram It's enjoyable to read a NFL media opinion that actually has a clue and puts some thought into their reasoning with a solid breakdown as if they actually follow the Rams. and yes ... clearly a guy who knows the teamby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotealyoshamucci Can't argue with the #s. I like hat he's talking about guys who can cover --- but trying to say Rams have a "type" when you are talking numbers from players from the position group, all of whom have numbers that fit with that position there is going to be a lot of overlap. It's really saying they don't pick outliers, I guess. But they do sign outliers at timeby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
about him, may have been Baldy -- anyway, very nimble for a guy that size... I think if he dropped 10 pounds, assuming it made him quicker but he's go a lot to like. I still want elite edge---the dropoff in production from rds 1-2 to 3-7 is big. Much bigger than in other positions -- meaning you can get a good TE, RB, CB, S later and get equal poruction It just means there is somethingby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotealyoshamucci That's ... almost disturbing. This is part of why I ask you about Verse and Latu in terms of coverage ability. I brefer the 250-260 guys who can move, even if they have not done it much, it's the quickness and agility that works in both rush and cover. Latu has a couple of good plays on film in a zone dog, but that is a different thing. Hoecht was just outmatched at timesby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
he came over when Pete Holohan did, Rams got both from Chargers He was with Rams about 3-4 weeks ... signed to replace injured TE late in year then, poof, gone ... went to Patriots --a poor man's Holohanby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
For whatever reason the taller, heavier TEs do better in NFL while there are some smaller ones that did great, these are top seasons in past 20 years with 6-4, 250 being dividing line .. and yeah could tweak the line ... but in broad strokes, for TE, size matters (pun not intended)by JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
There are some good OLBer (does not include 4-3 DE) taken after round two but odd much higher with 1-2 round This could be more scientific, but in broad strokes---talent matters in terms of certain things. I bet you will find a correlation between athleticism and baking taken higher ... moreso than college productions even though, you rather, much rather have a guy with both. I wish youby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotealyoshamucci I think Johnson takes Williams reps ... he was 4th in PFF (kobie was 1st) against the run when he came out. I like him a lot. Posted clips of him. Just hope he gets stronger. He's quick and good leverage ut seems like once an OL got to him he got wired up Quotealyoshamucci Those guys are Newton and Fiske first. Fisk would be good replacement for Williams, he'd be as gby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
They need to replace two starters --- Donald and Williams. Turner will take Donald's snaps. But, who takes Turner's snaps/ Turner backed yp Brown III at nose and played next to Donald in passing situations. Williams? Seems like you can replace him with a guy like him and that could be later in draft. But -- he didn't play passing downs ---so that might be a mid-round guy that were listby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotealyoshamucci TEX 90 tfDT Byron Murphy 6-1 297 $$ 309 So. Athlete Jr. Highest graded by PFF FSU DT Braden Fiske 6-4 297 MCH 94 DE Kris Jenkins 6-3 285 Jr. 305 DT Sr. ORE 3 DE5 Dorlus 6-3 290 Jr. OSU 51 DT Mike Hall 6-2 280 Srby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quote1st Rounder And got ran at and is available this late in the offseason and not signed to a huge new deal. Situational pass rushers can and have put up big sack numbers. That's the job. Also, It doesn't matter what round the player is selected once the draft is over or if the player had played EDGE in a 3-4 defense prior (Quinn never did until Phillips showed up). The only point beinby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDeadpool I can see him going early 2nd as well. Its weird, but sometimes guys get knocked for size, and other times they don't. but he's kind of that slot guy and sometimes teams want that guy to be bigger...other times they think a small guy can do it. Him? He's pretty tough and physical ... so I don't knowby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quote1st Rounder If a player can't set the EDGE vs. the run, he's simply a situation pass rusher ala Yannick Ngakoue who, btw, is still a free agent at just 29 years old. not the best comparison because he's been a 4-3 end and he was a 3rd round pick, not a 1st rounder. But, Rams would love to have an edge get 8-10 sacks a year for the next 7 years. If Young does that, he will be a good 3rdby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteNewMexicoRam End of the 1st, beginning of the 2nd usually has the best value. Maybe pick up one or 2 more later round picks and pick up more 3rd round picks, where there will be a ton of talent this year. If Rams were to trade up and give away a 2nd to get it (maybe getting a 4th back) and if they were to trade down and get an extra second (maybe having to give away a 5th to been it up) thby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
to make it even -- as per both charts ... but losing a 2nd --- it a high price. COuld Rams get as good an edge at 19? I don't know how they evaluate Chop or Verse. UCLA kid's neck too risky, for me.by JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
or something close to thatby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
and would keep Lake at safety more. If we go edge rusher in 1st, I'd be tempted to take him in 2nd round. Then use 3rdround for WR and DT/DEby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
woud love to get that Michigan CB/slot at 83 --- I wonder if he will last would be perfect fit.by JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCoy Bacon If a guy can't produce good sack numbers in college will he be able to produce in the pros? Plus he's a junior coming out. If Chop didn't produce good sack numbers, given some of the weaker teams PS played, I doubt he'll produce at the pro level. Based on the evaluations below, I hope the Rams don't draft him. As the 3rd eval. says, Robinson is a crap shoot, he's very fast, butby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
but don't want him to have a ruined life, but some tam will take him and hopefully he will learn... not smartby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
control drinking, make good decisions, eat a proper diet ... 366 is too big... needs to lose 20 pounds. Can count on one hand the good players that big. 345-350 is plentyby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemtramfan If, when we pick the other edge players are gone and Robinson remains, I'd expect the Rams to pass - and fill a different need. There are guys with poor production and go on to do well. Others majorly great college production at major schools and bust. And there are some with good college production and also have good pro production. We've all seen it all. THat is why predby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
but no all players are All-Pros. he has healthy issues and that held him back. We'd all have loved drafting Humphrey ... or an upgrade but there was never a reason for all the overly negative comments. The over-the-top stuff. He did fine, he's gone and Rams now have a potential All-pro center in Avila.by JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteroman18 I am not downplaying sacks in any way, but the guys with the most sacks are the high priced guys for the most part. That said IMO pressures actually do more damage as they can produce those all important turn overs. So as far as an edge goes you want to see a bunch of sacks, but those pressures cause more turmoil. A sack is sexy, a pressure is more dynamic (with possibilities of mby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteazramfan He wouldn't play edge. He's a big DE that runs 4.95 40 yd dash. He's like Hoecht, nightmare in coverage.by JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax What a shame for those teams of the 70's.. A steady QB would have been a huge difference-makerby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSoCalRAMatic Well, I don't know how to judge this one. Chop is a big hit or miss. Unreal talent but has effort questions. If we get him to play opposite Young why pick another edge in the second? Darious Robinson isl little more of a 4-3 DE ... IMO ... size-wiseby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com