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Re: But that is the point.

June 29, 2021 03:21PM
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waterfield
I don't look at things that way. Meaning I don't evaluate "clear and present danger" before just doing what is right. To me being a good citizen is about having concerns over the safety of others no matter whether your conduct will result in a clear and present danger. This is especially so when the preventative conduct is so minimal (i.e. two shots)

I likely have written this before but my son's immune system has been compromised due to metastatic melanoma that required the removal of most of his lymph nodes in the upper half of his body. He had to wait until it was his turn to be vaccinated. During this time he was seriously vulnerable to the virus which could have been fatal to him. I'm going to assume you can imagine how I would feel if he had contracted the virus from someone who weighed the odds and refused to be vaccinated or wear a mask based on "personal rights" and a bastardization of "liberty" because they were not convinced there was a "clear and present danger".. I could never forgive that person in the event my son died from becoming infected by the virus transmitted by such a person. Never. So simple-just a shot. And there are millions of people like my son out there. Hopefully, after more and more responsible people take the shot(s) the danger to people like my son will be less and less.

I just don't believe good people take out their smart phones and calculate the odds before acting in consideration of others.

Yeah. "Clear and present danger" on this issue is just the wrong set of ideas. It's simple. The vaccines have been proven safe. The only thing that diminishes the virus is a high percentage of people getting vaccinated. Until that happens the vulnerable are still vulnerable. No one could POSSIBLY know what their failure to vaccinate could mean. It could mean they get infected without getting sick so spread it to a grocery clerk who spreads it to her kids who spread to someone who is vulnerable. It's irrational to think we actually can foresee all that. It's just as irrational to assume it won't happen. You just get vaccinated because it's the right thing to do from a health and public safety perspective.


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  Anyone know whether Stafford got vaccinated?

The Professor399June 24, 2021 05:17PM

  Not sure there's a way to know (HIPPA)

Ram_Ruler118June 24, 2021 05:30PM

  Re: Not sure there's a way to know (HIPPA)

The Professor194June 24, 2021 06:35PM

  I would imagine that California is doing pretty well vaccination wise

Ram_Ruler154June 25, 2021 10:12AM

  Re: I would imagine that California is doing pretty well vaccination wise

MamaRAMa121June 25, 2021 11:28AM

  Much lower than expected

Ram_Ruler123June 25, 2021 01:14PM

  Re: Much lower than expected

MamaRAMa123June 25, 2021 02:50PM

  what data do we believe

ferragamo79159June 26, 2021 05:02PM

  the only official data is the CDC

zn99June 27, 2021 04:45AM

  65 percent of NFL players have received at least one COVID-19 vaccine shot

BerendsenRam121June 25, 2021 10:16AM

  Re: Anyone know whether Stafford got vaccinated?

Classicalwit115June 25, 2021 04:09PM

  Re: Anyone know whether Stafford got vaccinated?

zn141June 25, 2021 04:20PM

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Classicalwit112June 26, 2021 04:54AM

  Re: Anyone know whether Stafford got vaccinated?

zn150June 26, 2021 06:41AM

  Latest: Being told to mask up again because of the variant

ferragamo79185June 25, 2021 05:05PM

  Weird, everyone is masked where I am...

JamesJM109June 28, 2021 03:35PM

  I'm guessing probably in the arm

IowaRam115June 26, 2021 07:57AM

  the “reporters need to stop asking athletes if they are vaccinated, it’s nobody’s business” crowd

zn203June 26, 2021 11:39AM

  Never mind.. please delete..

sstrams156June 26, 2021 12:22PM

  more people need to get vaccinated

zn147June 26, 2021 12:54PM

  Re: more people need to get vaccinated

waterfield122June 26, 2021 01:34PM

  please correct me if im wrong

PHDram125June 28, 2021 06:33AM

  Re: please correct me if im wrong

zn120June 28, 2021 08:44AM

  Not my point

waterfield136June 28, 2021 02:17PM

  But that is the point.

PHDram126June 28, 2021 03:43PM

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zn183June 29, 2021 10:18AM

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PHDram163June 29, 2021 11:23AM

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waterfield112June 29, 2021 03:04PM

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zn114June 29, 2021 03:21PM

  You may nor like it but that is tge standard

PHDram126June 29, 2021 03:54PM