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June 19, 2020 05:57AM
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It doesn't matter when they were ordered, approval didn't happen until the other day. As soon as approval was finally given(after what, 3 different tries?) they send $1B out of our economy.

Why was that money not spent on a US company to make these virtually worthless masks? These are not the N95 good ones, they're basic cloth masks. And the contract is for around 500 million masks? For a BILLION dollars? The state only has 40 million people and cloth masks are reusable.

Nah, Newsom is as corrupt as his aunt.


Where is the corruption? Corrupt people get something out of their actions.

And it's funny to see someone be so completely anti-science that they actually believe masks are worthless in this epidemic.

But rant on.
For most circumstances, masks are worthless. They are only effective in protecting others when social distancing isn't possible, right? So, if you don't live or work in a densely populated area...like most Americans don't, you don't need a mask. On top of that, if everyone is sequestered at home and not working, who are these masks actually for?

As far as the corruption, let's not be naive. Newsom is getting a kickback of some kind in some way. He's probably sav
vy enough to hide it but this is easily a corrupt deal. Even if it was all above board, he's sending $1B out of the California economy...to CHINA!!!

It's funny when someone calls indulging baseless conspiracy theories "not being naive." There is always something naive about baseless conspiracy theories.

In terms of your ungrounded assumptions about masks. Want real data? Japan is crowded, right? It has an amazingly low infection rate from covid-19. It's because the entire population wore masks. Other places where they wore masks early also had low infection rates. Like Hong Kong (a crowded place right?) There are others in Europe too including Austria.

It's data. Info. Places, no matter how crowded, where a large proportion of the population wore masks kept the infection rates down. That's the facts.

Facts are different from making stuff up in your head and stubbornly sticking to it for no good reason.

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  Getting really, really nervous

JimYoungblood531025June 17, 2020 11:30AM

  Its only lost..

sstrams238June 17, 2020 12:26PM

  Re: Its only lost..

Classicalwit180June 18, 2020 12:55PM

  1600 mm lens ?

waterfield141June 18, 2020 06:40PM

  Yeah, its actually..

sstrams116June 19, 2020 06:01AM

  As someone who is in New York

alyoshamucci267June 17, 2020 12:43PM

  We'll see

JimYoungblood53196June 17, 2020 12:56PM

  Re: As someone who is in New York

Rampage2K-207June 17, 2020 01:01PM

  Football may not happen at all

waterfield194June 18, 2020 11:45AM

  Again, I have ZERO idea, but I am concerned

JimYoungblood53167June 18, 2020 12:11PM

  agreed, bro...with real potential for MORE fan involvement

SunTzu_vs_Camus212June 18, 2020 07:02AM

  Re: agreed, bro...with real potential for MORE fan involvement

waterfield238June 18, 2020 07:33AM

  Re: agreed, bro...with real potential for MORE fan involvement

Classicalwit137June 18, 2020 01:03PM

  Re: agreed, bro...with real potential for MORE fan involvement

Ram Fan Teacher131June 18, 2020 01:07PM

  Re: agreed, bro...with real potential for MORE fan involvement

Rams43129June 18, 2020 01:15PM

  Re: agreed, bro...with real potential for MORE fan involvement

waterfield126June 18, 2020 01:08PM

  Re: agreed, bro...with real potential for MORE fan involvement

alyoshamucci129June 18, 2020 12:17PM

  With the $$$ on the line both for teams and players

RantoulRam193June 17, 2020 01:03PM

  Many players and coaches wouldn't stand for that solution.

RockRam178June 18, 2020 12:19PM

  Re: Many players and coaches wouldn't stand for that solution.

waterfield139June 18, 2020 01:30PM

  Doubt NFLPA would go for that

promomasterj140June 18, 2020 01:35PM

  Re: the smart thing would be to cancel the season....

spagsbacker179June 18, 2020 07:25AM

  I reluctantly agree.

Ramgator163June 18, 2020 07:31AM

  And just think

waterfield152June 18, 2020 07:40AM

  I think it will be an up and down thing.

Ramgator137June 18, 2020 12:26PM

  Re: And just think

Classicalwit168June 18, 2020 01:07PM

  Re: And just think

Rams43134June 18, 2020 01:18PM

  Half the states closed...other half NEVER did....

SunTzu_vs_Camus210June 19, 2020 04:02AM

  Re: the smart thing would be to cancel the season....

j3rivram154June 18, 2020 12:27PM

  I get it

waterfield127June 18, 2020 01:27PM

  Re: I get it

Rams43139June 18, 2020 01:32PM

  Freedom to infect others?

promomasterj161June 18, 2020 01:37PM

  Re: Freedom to infect others?

Rams43152June 18, 2020 01:48PM

  Ah yes. The "we'll force people to do what's best for me" approach

RockRam256June 19, 2020 04:00AM

  shouldn't this thread be in a NON football forum?

SunTzu_vs_Camus138June 19, 2020 04:46AM

  Amen. . . .

RAMbeau140June 19, 2020 02:36PM

  Re: Amen. . . .

21Dog113June 20, 2020 05:45AM

  How true. . . .

RAMbeau139June 20, 2020 05:49AM

  Re: hypothetical conversation

AlbaNY_Ram122June 19, 2020 05:48AM

  Re: hypothetical conversation

Rampage2K-124June 21, 2020 08:57PM

  Yea...those pesky immunizations and vaccines..

DaJudge152June 19, 2020 06:25AM

  Re: Yea...those pesky immunizations and vaccines..

Rampage2K-117June 21, 2020 08:58PM

  007. . . License to Kill nm

RAMbeau135June 20, 2020 05:51AM

  Re: Ah yes. The "we'll force people to do what's best for me" approach

waterfield194June 20, 2020 08:00AM

  Risk averse or not

PHDram119June 20, 2020 09:44AM

  Our hope is not a vaccine; it is not allowing fear to dominate

RockRam217June 19, 2020 02:54AM

  Polio=fear =Salk vaccine(nm)

waterfield170June 19, 2020 06:34AM

  That is missing the point.

RockRam119June 20, 2020 05:26AM

  Re: That is missing the point.

AlbaNY_Ram168June 20, 2020 06:58AM

  Re: That is missing the point.

zn130June 20, 2020 07:37AM

  Re: That is missing the point.

waterfield186June 20, 2020 08:15AM

  Re: Our hope is not a vaccine; it is not allowing fear to dominate

Rampage2K-134June 21, 2020 09:15PM

  go analogy

ferragamo79241June 22, 2020 07:58AM

  Someone mentioned a vaccine ...

alyoshamucci176June 18, 2020 12:19PM

  So Fi now under investigation for rise in COVID infections

waterfield169June 18, 2020 01:11PM

  Face masks now MANDATORY in California

ferragamo79192June 18, 2020 01:20PM

  Re: Face masks now MANDATORY in California

Rams43171June 18, 2020 01:30PM

  Re: Face masks now MANDATORY in California Attachments

Rampage2K-276June 18, 2020 01:36PM

  Re: Face masks now MANDATORY in California

Rams43212June 18, 2020 01:40PM

  Masks are dangerous? Where did you read that?

promomasterj247June 18, 2020 01:42PM

  Re: Masks are dangerous? Where did you read that?

Rams43280June 18, 2020 02:09PM

  Re: Masks are dangerous? Where did you read that?

Rampage2K-278June 18, 2020 02:13PM

  Re: Masks are dangerous? Where did you read that?

Rams43132June 18, 2020 02:23PM

  Re: Masks are dangerous? Where did you read that?

zn135June 18, 2020 02:29PM

  Re: Masks are dangerous? Where did you read that?

AlbaNY_Ram175June 18, 2020 02:55PM

  Re: Masks are dangerous? Where did you read that?

zn268June 18, 2020 06:04PM

  Umm, the CNN one is from March 2

promomasterj142June 18, 2020 03:04PM

  On the science...

PHDram139June 18, 2020 07:19PM

  Re: On the science...

zn165June 18, 2020 07:54PM

  Re: On the science...

PHDram174June 18, 2020 07:59PM

  Re: On the science...

zn129June 18, 2020 08:09PM

  Re: On the science...

moklerman230June 18, 2020 08:29PM

  your dates are off

zn136June 18, 2020 10:09PM

  Re: your dates are off

moklerman135June 19, 2020 05:16AM

  Re: your dates are off

zn121June 19, 2020 05:21AM

  Re: your dates are off

moklerman126June 19, 2020 05:35AM

  Re: your dates are off

zn131June 19, 2020 05:57AM

  Re: your dates are off

AlbaNY_Ram131June 19, 2020 06:05AM

  Thats true..

PHDram123June 18, 2020 08:42PM

  Re: Thats true..

zn120June 18, 2020 08:56PM

  An effect size

PHDram122June 18, 2020 09:06PM

  no its not what you need to know

zn144June 18, 2020 09:25PM

  Sure ok

PHDram117June 19, 2020 03:05AM

  Re: Sure ok

AlbaNY_Ram122June 19, 2020 03:20AM

  Re: Sure ok

PHDram115June 19, 2020 03:56AM

  Re: Sure ok

AlbaNY_Ram110June 19, 2020 05:52AM

  besides

zn118June 19, 2020 06:14AM

  perhaps you should follow your advice

PHDram169June 19, 2020 06:29AM

  Re: perhaps you should follow your advice

zn121June 19, 2020 06:59AM

  Agreed.

PHDram116June 19, 2020 06:19AM

  Yes, yes and yes

promomasterj140June 18, 2020 01:39PM

  Oh and the more test thing has been partially debunked

promomasterj142June 18, 2020 01:41PM

  Re: Oh and the more test thing has been partially debunked

waterfield139June 18, 2020 01:55PM

  Re: Oh and the more test thing has been partially debunked

Rams43182June 18, 2020 02:16PM

  So the fact that measures have prevented hundreds of thousands of deaths

promomasterj155June 18, 2020 03:10PM

  Re: So the fact that measures have prevented hundreds of thousands of deaths

Rams43129June 18, 2020 04:21PM

  Re: So the fact that measures have prevented hundreds of thousands of deaths

moklerman152June 18, 2020 06:33PM

  Re: So the fact that measures have prevented hundreds of thousands of deaths

waterfield126June 18, 2020 06:42PM

  How so? NM

PHDram122June 18, 2020 07:09PM

  Re: So the fact that measures have prevented hundreds of thousands of deaths

Rams43131June 18, 2020 08:06PM

  Re: So the fact that measures have prevented hundreds of thousands of deaths Attachments

AlbaNY_Ram121June 19, 2020 02:10AM

  Re: So the fact that measures have prevented hundreds of thousands of deaths

moklerman190June 19, 2020 05:42AM

  Re: So the fact that measures have prevented hundreds of thousands of deaths

AlbaNY_Ram128June 19, 2020 05:46AM

  It's pretty simple...even my six year old gets it.

DaJudge132June 19, 2020 06:45AM

  true but also

zn148June 19, 2020 07:04AM

  Very good point. (nm)

DaJudge116June 19, 2020 07:12AM

  Re: true but also

moklerman137June 19, 2020 07:19AM

  Re: true but also

zn115June 19, 2020 07:25AM

  Re: true but also

moklerman118June 19, 2020 07:33AM

  Re: true but also

zn124June 19, 2020 08:32AM

  as I know you know, it's hospitalizations, which are spiking in many states

zn147June 18, 2020 02:28PM

  Re: Yes, yes and yes

Rams43154June 18, 2020 01:51PM

  Re: Yes, yes and yes

Rampage2K-179June 18, 2020 02:03PM

  Re: Face masks now MANDATORY in California Attachments

IowaRam190June 18, 2020 01:41PM

  How in the world....

DaJudge211June 19, 2020 06:46AM